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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(October 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: How many times do I have to say this.

Make your own case.

I can go this far (and Ive already done this with you) -Everything I know is wrong, now show me why you're right. The examples you've given thusfar are insufficient.

How many times do I have to say this? I already did, you must have not been paying attention. I can make sense of each of the preconditions given my worldview, and you cannot make sense of any of them given yours. That’s all I have to demonstrate, and I have done so.

(October 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I said I use logic, reason and science because it works.

How do you know it works?

Quote: I choose rationality over magical thinking. I do not need to justify that choice.

Yes you do, or else you are not being rational; which means you are not actually choosing rationality over anything but rather irrationality over rationality.



Quote: If you choose magical thinking, be honest enough to say so and go live in an Amish community or be a hermit or live some other lifestyle that better suits you.

Straw man, I choose rationality, and I can justify my rationality given my worldview; which of course makes me more of a rational thinker than you, don’t hate me for it.

Quote: This is not to say that I believe you can make up your own rules for logic. Rules of logic, principles of mathematics, laws of science, etc. are what they are not because someone made them all up but because they were discovered.

How were they discovered (the laws of logic)? How do you discover the law of identity? Namely, now do you observe that something is what it is and is not what it is not?
This also does not explain how they exist or where they came from since surely you believe they existed prior to their discovery.
Quote:I am starting to think you have missed the point of the last 42 pages. The point is that ... [long paragraph full of bullshit]
Careful with how you quote me please, changing a person’s quote white still using the quote function is against the forum rules.

Quote:I
The ancient Hebrew word for "sky" and "Heaven" are one and the same. Consequently, Genesis 1:8 can be faithfully translated either as "Yahweh called the dome sky" or "Yahweh called the dome Heaven".

Hence why Hebrew words are defined by context, the proper translation there is “sky”, not “Heaven”. You wouldn’t think that when I said, “I went to the bank today and cashed a check” that I was talking about going down to the bank of a river now would you? Context matters.

Quote: The Judeo-Christian god is referred to as a "Heavenly Father" (even by Jesus no less). "Daddy" is an affectionate term for "father".

So when you use this term you are showing admiration and affection for the Christian God? Get real, it was a question begging epithet and you know it.

Quote: Don't whine because I'm not being respectful.

I don’t care whether you are respectful or not, I do care whether you are rational though, and using biased language in a discussion is logically fallacious and thus irrational.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Statler Waldorf - November 1, 2011 at 7:55 pm

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