(January 26, 2021 at 9:58 pm)Five Wrote: An argument I hate: A perfect God(omnipotent) made an imperfect world, with sin, pain, and negative emotions, because it was for our benefit.
Every time I think about this, I get angry. 1. Because those who spout it don't even understand the concept of a painless existence or what learning in that existence would be like. So, how can you sit there and say, "I needed to suffer in order to learn and grow." There is no way for you to know that, because in this existence, pain and suffering is all you know. And 2. It's pure gaslighting on the part of this deity, who willed everything into existence and made the laws that govern the universe and thus our lives. I live at its behest, therefore, no matter how terrible my experience(which this deity claims responsibility for) I better be grateful. Or else.
Sorry for the sidetracking further down the thread...I will abide by the serious tag.
I can recall being told to "offer up" anything bad we went through to god. Maybe that's a Catholic thing, I don't know. But it was some weird mental offering no matter if it was a physical pain or an emotional struggle. I suppose it was a way to make us think what we went through was worthwhile. Maybe it had a bit of the purgatory thing to it that you were working off some of your sin count if you offered up your suffering to god.
Weird concept that the god that supposedly loves you also wants to be gifted with your pain. But then, there's a lot of circling around and mental gymnastics to make things fit the narrative.
Another reason to leave it all behind.
I'm your huckleberry.
