(November 4, 2011 at 5:23 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: It was not a straw man, it was an valid analogy. You attempted to refute TAG (Argument A) by refuting the Moral Argument for the Existence of God (Not Argument A), and then to top it off you defended this action rather than admitting it was a major logical misstep. I find it interesting that when VOID points this error out to you your response is something like, “oh yeah my bad”, but when I point it out to you somehow I am the one being logically fallacious. If it were not so sad it’d be funny.
Actually, as I explained, the same principles apply. Since Christians make the same argument for morality as for why we use reason ("GodWillsIt"), the same refutation can be offered.
You used appeal to ridicule rather than address the counter argument.
Quote:If the replacement is innocent I do.
But you said that you thought moral justice could allow an innocent person to take the place of the guilty in punishment, thereby letting the guilty one go free.
Do you wish to take that back or say you misunderstood and now reject the idea that moral justice can allow an innocent to take the place of the guilty in punishment?
Quote:Why not? You very clearly stated that you cannot prove a negative, and yet you believe the negative statement that “no human can naturally fly” is true?
*Facepalm*
1. You asked me if I believe that humans can naturally fly and I said "no" (I don't believe that humans can naturally fly).
2. Shifting the burden of proof is a logical fallacy.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
