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Turning the tables on atheism
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RE: Turning the tables on atheism
(March 23, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(March 23, 2021 at 2:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Theism doesn't have to be incoherent for your beliefs to be incoherent or for a person to be an atheist.  That's your own problem, not any atheists.

No, you're lying. Many atheists have a problem with evil, for example, many of them, actually, became atheists as a result of some traumatic event highlighting suffering. In this case, we have people who would otherwise believe in God if these obstacles weren't there.
I think you may have a reading comprehension issue?  What is it, exactly, that you think atheism is? Many atheists are also right handed. Do you think that arguing against right handedness answers atheism, in some way?

I can go pretty much any direction you like with it, being a right handed atheist who has a problem with evil. I don't have any traumatic obstacles in my life preventing belief, though, so that's a wash I guess. If you think that more people would believe in your silly god if their life were better in some undefined way - that sounds like gods problem. Tell the big man to stop fucking around and pick up some slack.

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(March 23, 2021 at 2:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I feel like we're all just going to keep repeating the obvious until it sinks into your thick skull.  We already know that you exist.  We already know that you've rationalized your beliefs. What did you think this was supposed to demonstrate, again?

It demonstrates that those who find the arguments for God compelling have no excuse to reject belief, because many people managed to reconcile belief with these so-called excuses.
Are you trying to demonstrate something about people who find arguments for god compelling, or atheists....? I think that everyone here would probably expect for people who find arguments for gods compelling to be able to then rationalize their beliefs. As we've all said one way or another - we already understand that you exist.

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(March 23, 2021 at 2:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Should we interpret your comments about taking the easy way out as you acknowledging that your religion is evil, and just not giving shit?  Is that on that list of things?  If your main complaint is that you can't argue your way out of being a death cultist...I think we see another you problem, not our problem.

Of ccourse I can argue my way out of my belief. I actually do have issues with it, like God revealing his message to a handful of people, or the well-known story of al-Khidr, as described in 18:65-82, or the corruption of earlier scripture, and other issues. I can choose the easy way out and say these issues are serious enough to reject belief, instead of trying to better understand them.
I knew it would be a blast.  You're not worried about belonging to a death cult, but man..the possibility for typos just keeps you up at night!

Let me hazard a guess. You're stumbling between the very different subjects of people who don't believe in gods, and people who reject your religion for it's barbarity, inadequacy, or idiocy. People who, even if they believed in a god..would still reject your religion for those reasons. So, pretty much every other god botherer..and some right handed atheists.
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Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 11:29 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 23, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by brewer - March 23, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by zwanzig - March 23, 2021 at 11:55 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Fake Messiah - March 23, 2021 at 11:55 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 12:22 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 23, 2021 at 12:29 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 23, 2021 at 12:54 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 12:06 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Fake Messiah - March 23, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 23, 2021 at 12:34 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 23, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 1:51 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 23, 2021 at 5:13 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 23, 2021 at 12:46 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 23, 2021 at 1:05 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 23, 2021 at 1:09 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 1:17 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 23, 2021 at 1:31 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 1:54 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Fake Messiah - March 23, 2021 at 2:49 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by downbeatplumb - March 23, 2021 at 2:49 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Astreja - March 23, 2021 at 6:26 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Nay_Sayer - March 23, 2021 at 1:53 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 23, 2021 at 2:12 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 2:17 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 3:59 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by zebo-the-fat - March 23, 2021 at 6:35 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Pat Mustard - March 24, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 24, 2021 at 4:03 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 23, 2021 at 2:35 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by zebo-the-fat - March 23, 2021 at 2:49 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Pat Mustard - March 23, 2021 at 2:55 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 4:23 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2021 at 6:04 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Abaddon_ire - March 23, 2021 at 5:37 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by no one - March 23, 2021 at 6:11 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 23, 2021 at 6:12 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by R00tKiT - March 25, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 26, 2021 at 1:51 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2021 at 6:45 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Rahn127 - March 24, 2021 at 1:09 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Brian37 - March 24, 2021 at 3:10 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 24, 2021 at 11:28 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Brian37 - March 28, 2021 at 8:58 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 28, 2021 at 3:23 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 24, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2021 at 5:05 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 24, 2021 at 5:25 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Astreja - March 25, 2021 at 2:31 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 25, 2021 at 2:29 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Pat Mustard - March 26, 2021 at 4:48 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 26, 2021 at 5:04 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by no one - March 24, 2021 at 6:35 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Valkyrie - March 25, 2021 at 2:43 am
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2021 at 3:09 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 25, 2021 at 3:32 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by LadyForCamus - March 26, 2021 at 2:25 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2021 at 2:32 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by no one - March 26, 2021 at 3:17 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by Angrboda - March 26, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Turning the tables on atheism - by no one - March 28, 2021 at 6:02 pm

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