RE: Jews vs. Palestine
May 15, 2021 at 11:54 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2021 at 11:55 am by Brian37.)
(May 14, 2021 at 5:30 pm)WinterHold Wrote:(May 14, 2021 at 7:40 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Thing is, there were jews and jewish gods in isreal before and after a bedouin warlord tried to steal their shtick. Somewhere around the 8th century bc, isrealites were taken as pows, and by the 6th bc, judahites as well. It's that latter group that the term jewish comes from (and a disagreement between those factions that forms the basis of old magic book). Some portion of both of these groups returned but not all of them - and exile wasn't universal in either case. There were communities that had remained in place in the intervening centuries - and it must have been surprising for them to hear from the returning exiles that they were the rightful rulers of the land and true stewards of gods covenant.
There was no roman exile -at all-..the communities which had begun to spread over the known world a millenia beforehand were still and already doing that of their own accord - and the inability or unwillingness of other cultural and national actors then-to-now, to accept them.. their mere existence, lead to parallel histories for most of those groups.
What Winter is peddling is just an excuse for removing jews. It doesn't matter whether or not it's an accurate assessment, and it certainly didn't matter enough to him to get any of it right. If it weren't, and he realized it - he would simply refer to some other reason to have the jews removed. In reality, and respecting human rights..not isreali or palaestinian or jewish or muslim rights...there's no future in this that doesn't amount to both groups genuinely recognizing each other and coming to some arrangements either between them or within themselves as a larger whole - and none of the vagaries of a history in the 8th century bc or even the more recent events of ww2 have or can have anything to say about that now. Isreal and the isrealis aren't going to be going anywhere. You'd think that palestinians and pro palestinian types might understand that........ You might even think that their neighbors would understand that - but, ofc, they had to be told in the most certain and dramatic way imaginable - and even after that, they're still dreaming about booting them rather than dealing with the reality of their existence. Third verse same as the first, just louder..nastier, and dumber.
So, your solution is "ethnic cleansing" just like your ancestors did to Native Americans; right?
I mean if there were no Jews, no war will ever take place in that land.
And if there were no Muslims, no war will ever take place in that land.
Sad thing; that such mentality is still thriving around.
Zionist Jews are invaders; they weren't living in this land nor they were born in that land !
What sick mentality justifies the kicking of the natives (who were born in the land) and replace them by another race? isn't that called "Forced displacement"; and if killing was involved it is called "Ethnic Cleansing"?
This is Ethnic Cleansing by invaders who came from the outside. Deal with it; Palestinians will keep fighting terrorism.
#IsraelTerrorist
#PalestinianLivesMatter
Hate to burst your bubble Atlass, but polytheists occupied that same land Jews and Muslims fight over, long before either religion existed.
If I could force the entire populations of BOTH Israel and Palestine to take DNA tests, both would find out they are far more related than either side wants to admit.
All humans are ultimately related regardless. Our species started out in Africa long before organized cities or written languages of any kind.
I hate Bibi, but that does not make Hamas good by default.