RE: Jews vs. Palestine
May 20, 2021 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2021 at 5:20 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(May 20, 2021 at 4:37 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 20, 2021 at 11:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’d expect nothing less. People with a background includes being the victim of apartheid societies tend to be the ones who understand it best.
Boru
well one there aren't 6 million people alive now that were exiled from israel 70 years ago.. more like 100,000 men and women as of 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi..._Palestine
so any ties to land are neglible as those alive today were children then.
The bottom line palestinian land was not taken by the americans or the jews. they lost their land in 1517 to the ottomans and the ottoman empire. before then they occupied the east bank of the jordan river just like they do now. then in 1517 they lost their lands to the ottomans who kept their land and israel till after WWI in 1918! where it fell under british rule as a colony! so again no lands unlike the ignorant scotsman claimed. So from 18 to 1948 these were british held lands and governed by british authority. who allowed both arabs and jews to live there side by side. which triggered several disputes till the end of WWII when it was officially decided to redivide the land as it was before the ottomans took over in 1517 giving the jews the land west of the river jordan to the sea of galilee and the palestinians the lands tot he east.
https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mo...8-to-1948/
your hero is a lying one sided tool. and your video is too chopped up to make him look like he dominated the discussion. it makes it look like his boyfriend was trying to salvage his ego.
(May 20, 2021 at 4:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You realize that not all Jewish people have Israel citizenship, right? That the majority of Jewish people don’t even live in Israel?not according to your scots man diplomat.. he clearly insinuates" any jew living anywhere in the world has citizenship or a right to it while the 6 million who were seemingly ejected from their homes a (seemingly) few nights ago do not."
Not only are there Jews who are not Israelis, there are Israelis who are not Jewish (most of them are called ‘Palestinians).
Boru
History aside, the state of things in Isreal in the present day is one of apartheid, and there is no coherent argument that it isn’t.
The man in the video is Irish, not Scottish. What he is referring to is ‘the right of return’. It sounds good in theory (and is actually a different animal than citizenship), but the Israelis don’t apply it evenly (re: Uganda). What he is arguing is that Israeli Muslims are treated as second-class citizens, the very definition of apartheid.
Boru
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