ciafbi have to say about ufo'hs

[Irreligious Atheist]

You have expressed what your biases are. I didn't have to guess. People in this thread are taking Obama's statement and twisting it around with their mental gymnastics as if the POTUS said "we don't know what it is, but it's probably seagulls". I didn't need Obama to come out and make a statement to support my argument. Former senate majority leader Harry Reid confirmed all of the news over the past few years. Former Director of national intelligence John Ratcliffe confirmed the news from the past few years. Marco Rubio confirmed it, and on and on. Democrats and Republicans alike have confirmed it. Some of the videos have been shown to the public, and Obama confirmed that they have other data besides just videos to confirm that this stuff is moving in ways scientists, the navy, the government, etc can not explain with all of their scientists.

You are either open to new information or you are going to stick with your old biased mindset on this topic no matter what is released to the public or talked about by the establishment and power structure. Now of course, the establishment has pulled off false flags before. Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The military, the government, the media, the intelligence community, etc were all on the same page. Iraq clearly had weapons of mass destruction, even though they didn't. I'm usually the last one to take what the establishment says seriously. If Obama's lips are moving, my default position is usually that he's lying. I always told myself that if the government tried to push for alien nonsense on the populace, I'd assume it was a false flag hoax. They're giving us videos which are actual evidence though. In the face of real data, I am forced to change how I see the world. You're acting like I've just converted and become a theist or something lol, and people are poking fun with their Roswell memes when I've posted many times that I don't believe in aliens and this stuff being observed in the sky could be something as mundane as unexplained weather phenomena. That's a far cry from me believing that the government is housing ET bodies at area 51.

Oh, get bent you ignorant twat. You've read a couple of my posts and projected the opposites of your obvious biases on them. You don't know me or anything about me.

I didn't mean to misrepresent you if that's what I've done. Maybe expand on what your views are on the subject rather than just quoting people and throwing out insults. I can't know what your exact views are on the topic if you insist on hiding those views rather than expressing your own opinion. What do you think this UAP and USO phenomena is that has been in the news over the past few years? Any idea? Is it all seagulls? Please give your position on this so I don't make the mistake of misrepresenting your views in the future.

It's what he does.  He thinks he has me all figured out.  This from a guy who thinks aligning himself with Drich is a positive thing.  pffft

I don't think I have you figured out at all, because you never really express any of your actual opinions on a topic. You just respond with snarky remarks or insults trying to derail threads, which seems very unprofessional for a moderator to be doing again and again (but it's your forum and you are the law. Not trying to get you in trouble. You keep doing you), and when questioned, you refuse to attempt to even back up any argument, like when I asked you to defend your position on free will. You couldn't and you just ran. When it comes to a poster like sungula, even though he and I disagree on most topics, he always does his best to try to give a decent rebuttal, and I respect that, unlike what you do where you're just looking for a cat fight. Sungula puts in the effort to defend his positions, and doesn't just come into a thread PMSing out while refusing to back up any statements he makes. Respect to my boy sungula and anyone who actually is willing to take part in a at least somewhat civil conversation with the other side.

And I would gladly align myself with not only Dric, but even with Hitler, if I liked dogs. Hitler liked dogs, and that's cool, but I personally am not a big fan of dogs, so I won't align myself with Hitler on his stance on dogs. But if I did like dogs, I'd gladly be lumped in with Hitler as a dog lover, because dogs deserve love. Personally, I have a cat and don't care for dogs though. Are you a dog lover arewethereyet? How does it feel aligning yourself with Adolph Hitler? Shame on you for being aligned with Hitler.