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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So you’d have to lie on questions 23e and f on a 4473, which is a felony, to acquire a gun legally, if it’s not already a boot out of the background check?

I will never apply to purchase a firearm so I don't have to worry about lying. But for those who have applied, can go in thinking they don't have problems and think they are ok, even if they are not qualified. How many stories have you heard in the news of people who had no record of even mental illness, go in and purchase a legal firearm, only to end up committing suicide, or worse, have financial problems and kill their partner to avoid a divorce? It happens all the time. 

The idea that everyone will answer a question on a form honestly is bullshit. And lots of people go into buying ANYTHING, not just guns, but anything and sign a contract and think they can handle what they are getting into, even being honest, only to fuck up after the contract.

Even outside the issue of guns. I might not have bought the new house I am living in now, if I knew the problems I am currently having with it. I got caught up in the newness aspect of a new home. I ran into problems after the sale. 

I don't care if someone is intentually lying or mentally ill, or is not aware they are in over their head, or have ill intent at time of purchase. Our vetting system sucks.

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Gun shops aren’t supposed to do psychological evaluations or mandate physical training. They’re gun shops. 

Boru

Not supposed to. Yea and? Why shouldn't they?

Lets let car dealerships sell cars to 5 year olds.

They shouldn’t because they are in the business of selling firearms. They’re neither psychologists nor training providers.

And cars are really a stupid analogy. Is a car dealership responsible for teaching you how to drive, or to make sure your psychologically fit to drive? No. Why? Because it isn’t their responsibility. What they do is make sure you have a valid license and insurance (if required). But these are taken care of by other agencies, not car dealers.

Boru