(September 27, 2021 at 5:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Punishment would be putting them in with violent sane prisoners in a regular prison. Containing the mentally ill that have gotten violent isn't saying they are like the sane. But it also does not mean they are safe in society either.
Don't confuse punishment with containment. If you want to argue Hinkley and Yates are mentally ill, I am with you. Nobody should argue they deserve the needle or gas chamber or waterboarding. But they are still a danger to society.
Bundy and Dahmer are/were not mentally ill. Hinkley and Yates should not get out. Not because they knew what they were doing, but because they are a danger to public safety. They should not be punished or abused at all. But that does not make them safe for the public.
Hinkley is not a danger to the public. I'm not sure how you can say he is, unless you happen to be a psychiatrist who examined him and made that determination and others did not listen to you, but I strongly suspect that not to be the case. Because his actual doctors have said that his mental illness is and has been in complete remission for 30 years.
Just because Hinkley at one time was a danger to the public, does not mean he is now. Either we believe in rehabilitation, or we don't And if you don't, then you have no fucking business in commenting on the matter.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
