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Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants?
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RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants?
(October 8, 2021 at 8:16 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:Actually human right will ultimately become totally meaningless in any practical sense, and  even its form will collapses  into flaming wreckage if it is not implicitly understood to be subservient to many other “supposed” rights.
Nope if there are no human rights then no other rights matter 

Quote:Ideal does not override the reality of consequences.   It can only struggle to temporarily appear to do so, and such can only struggle come at its own long term cost.
Without ideals a society has nothing

That is bullshit.    Many other completely practical rights as asserted practically by power mattered as far back as social hierarchy came first into being,  before humans were even humans, much less ever there were any inklings of the totally artificial ideal of human rights    These practical previligeg gained and maintained by power remain supreme due to their practical material nature no matter how loftily one might fantasizes about how high an imaginary artificial ideal to be.     

It is the society that had already been something for a very, very long time that first spawned the artificial ideal of human rights.   So ” Without ideals a society has nothing“ is but a meaningless chant that attempt to deny reality.
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Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by onlinebiker - September 24, 2021 at 11:12 am
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by Silver - September 24, 2021 at 11:15 am
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by Brian37 - September 24, 2021 at 11:16 am
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 12:25 pm
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:18 pm
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by brewer - September 24, 2021 at 1:43 pm
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by Angrboda - September 24, 2021 at 1:18 pm
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by TaraJo - September 24, 2021 at 7:12 pm
RE: Immigration Agents Whipping Hatian Migrants? - by Anomalocaris - October 8, 2021 at 8:19 pm

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