RE: The Sects of Atheism
November 1, 2021 at 8:05 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2021 at 8:10 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 1, 2021 at 7:10 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:(November 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I currently disbelieve, based on the current lack of evidence to support the claims that a god, soul or afterlife exist. I am open to being convinced that they do exist, but I currently have no warrant or justification to believe they do.
I am not absolutely certain of the nonexistence of gods, souls, afterlife.
So this means a Hard No and you’re providing no proof for your certainty of the non existence of God/s or souls. Are you the dictionary definitions of atheism or agnostic atheism or are you something else?
I said I am NOT absolutely certain that gods, souls, afterlife does not exist. I am open to the possibility, I just have no warrant or justification to believe those making the claim that those things do exist.
Again, it is not a Hard No" for me, since I make no claims of absolute certainty.
I am an agnostic, because I do not claim to know, that gods do not exist.
I am an atheist, because I disbelieve gods exist.
The 2 positions are not mutually exclusive.
(November 1, 2021 at 7:31 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote: I am going to throw some labels here and I hope you all don’t mind just like I don’t mind of the generalizations and comments on religion here.
If you’re too sensitive about this stuff, you don’t have to read me anymore.
I’m going to call this a night as it’s getting late here so have a good one wherever you all are.
The problem with your, throwing around labels, is you have gotten pretty close to the "no true Scotsman fallacy" a couple of times.
Just be aware, that the majority of people here, are very will versed in logic, and can easily point out fallacious reasoning with theists arguments.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.