RE: God, Santa, and The Tooth Fairy
December 10, 2021 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2021 at 11:15 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Yeah, it's all fun to play with - back to the immateriality of this or that. Let's try another example. There's water. Water in many forms, big water, little water. It's damned near impossible to know what any given molecule of water is doing in any large collection of it. Then there's water in paintings, and water in our imaginations, none of that water is wet..though, some of the water outside of our heads isn't wet too..most of it, most likely. All of this water is just so very different!
So what are we referring to when we say water? All of that material water? Water stored in a vault in zurich somewhere? No, ludicrous..there must be some immaterial water somewhere, all of this other "water" is just a symbol.
End of the day, it's unclear how a description of the many ways in which matter can behave or be found can ever lead to a conclusion of immateriality, or less generously, how this is anything other than a "matter can do all that we see it doing? Balderdash, I don't believe it". Well..okay, but if it's hard to believe that matter accounts for material objects and material interactions...if their mere existence is so difficult to reconcile....how would immaterial whatsits actually have an easier job explaining that? The obvious and manifestly apparent is insufficient, so we refer..instead...to what? How does the elf on the shelf move? Parents moving it? No, that's ludicrous......there must be an entire elf mover dimension causing that. All materially moved elfs are merely partaking in the immaterial form of the moved elf. The material elves, themselves, all partaking in the immaterial form of the elf. Parents, themselves...? Ha, got us again, material parents are explained by the immaterial form of parent.
So what are we referring to when we say water? All of that material water? Water stored in a vault in zurich somewhere? No, ludicrous..there must be some immaterial water somewhere, all of this other "water" is just a symbol.
End of the day, it's unclear how a description of the many ways in which matter can behave or be found can ever lead to a conclusion of immateriality, or less generously, how this is anything other than a "matter can do all that we see it doing? Balderdash, I don't believe it". Well..okay, but if it's hard to believe that matter accounts for material objects and material interactions...if their mere existence is so difficult to reconcile....how would immaterial whatsits actually have an easier job explaining that? The obvious and manifestly apparent is insufficient, so we refer..instead...to what? How does the elf on the shelf move? Parents moving it? No, that's ludicrous......there must be an entire elf mover dimension causing that. All materially moved elfs are merely partaking in the immaterial form of the moved elf. The material elves, themselves, all partaking in the immaterial form of the elf. Parents, themselves...? Ha, got us again, material parents are explained by the immaterial form of parent.
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