(December 11, 2021 at 1:23 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I don't know that number two is really dismissed so easily..a bizarre attitude, for a god? In what way..and, supposing it were a bizarre attitude, does that mean a god can't have bizarre attitudes?
So, god is pulling a Bart Simpson move
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA89DWVcSB0
^^^^^In this video, Bart Simpson doesn’t want to provide a reasonable evidence.
It’s not that the jewish god is not allowed to have a bizarre attitude or that he must provide reasonable and solid evidence.
It is a point to make and to give the opportunity for the theist to tell me his side of the story.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 KING JAMES VERSION
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, {5:10} Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
^^^^^Jesus invested the time to come to Earth, to do all the magic show, to cure the sick and to save the world.
Matthew 10:23 KING JAMES VERSION
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Matthew 10:28 KING JAMES VERSION
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
^^^^^Jesus is telling his followers to make a run for it when they are being attacked. What for? If they get killed, they would go to heaven, right?
John 3:16 KING JAMES VERSION
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. {3:17} For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
^^^^^Here it tells us that Jesus loves everyone and the goal is not to condemn the world but to save it.
God also wants to place a condition that you have to believe Jesus to be saved.
So, again, this is a case where you can ask the theist what the purpose is of this condition, what is the plan, what are we going to do with Jesus, are we building a machine, etc.
So, if the goal is to save the world, wouldn’t that goal be serviced better by providing some solid evidence? Why would he want his holy words to be distorted, why would he want his records to be degraded away?