Like I said in my previous post, people build their own gods. In this case, we are talking about christians. The christian will customize his Bible and his gods to his own liking and will also try to match it up with what he observes in his world.
In my case, I describe myself as an agnostic-ignitist-atheist. I take off my atheist hat and put on my theist hat and construct my own jewish god.
In my judgment, #2 is a bizarre behavior.
Just like the christian, I also try to judge things based on my observation of reality.
My observation is the following:
Humans build and do things for one of these reasons or a combination of both:
1. A serious reason
2. Pleasure.
An example of #1 is to build a watch. People build watches for serious reasons. They need to keep track of time, they need to get to work or a meeting.
Another example, the car manufacturer builds a car as a serious business. He will try to optimize his processes, use as less energy as possible, as less manpower as possible and output a product that works properly.
An example of #2 would be someone
Someone buys a car and spends some money to beautify it, to enhance its looks, its engine power output.
Another example would be, a person composes a music or a poem. Such things are passtimes, it is for enjoyment.
People watch TV shows, sitcoms, movies to pass the time, to enjoy it, to get a few laughs.
You mentioned a rube goldberg setup. This isn’t the goal of any company. They are not in business to waste time and resources.
This would be something done by an individual bc he gets pleasure out of it and perhaps he wants to show it to the world.
Well, reading the Bible, I get the impression that the jewish god is a very serious guy. He takes himself very seriously.
The only part where he seems to be getting pleasure is at the beginning. He build the Universe and says “This is looking mighty fine”.
There are 0 jokes in the Bible.
There is poetry but that isn’t poetry written by the jewish god.
It gets so serious that he kills people, does genocides, globacides and sends his only son to be killed.
His goal seems to be to save as many people as possible with the New testament. The goal seems to be to go around the world and preach the good news.
This doesn’t seem to be a joke. It looks like the jewish god/Jesus combo takes it seriously.
Having faith in him is taken seriously, by him.
I hope I was able to get my point across with the above observation + examples.
In my view, there is no room for pleasure and wasting time. God is in the serious business of saving lives. Think of it as a hospital.
Hope my explanations helped to clear things up.
In my case, I describe myself as an agnostic-ignitist-atheist. I take off my atheist hat and put on my theist hat and construct my own jewish god.
In my judgment, #2 is a bizarre behavior.
Just like the christian, I also try to judge things based on my observation of reality.
My observation is the following:
Humans build and do things for one of these reasons or a combination of both:
1. A serious reason
2. Pleasure.
An example of #1 is to build a watch. People build watches for serious reasons. They need to keep track of time, they need to get to work or a meeting.
Another example, the car manufacturer builds a car as a serious business. He will try to optimize his processes, use as less energy as possible, as less manpower as possible and output a product that works properly.
An example of #2 would be someone
Someone buys a car and spends some money to beautify it, to enhance its looks, its engine power output.
Another example would be, a person composes a music or a poem. Such things are passtimes, it is for enjoyment.
People watch TV shows, sitcoms, movies to pass the time, to enjoy it, to get a few laughs.
You mentioned a rube goldberg setup. This isn’t the goal of any company. They are not in business to waste time and resources.
This would be something done by an individual bc he gets pleasure out of it and perhaps he wants to show it to the world.
(December 13, 2021 at 3:37 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why would god do this dumb thing X in such a needlessly complicated and ineffectual way? Well, why wouldn't they, is that even odd behavior for a god to hear the stories told?
Well, reading the Bible, I get the impression that the jewish god is a very serious guy. He takes himself very seriously.
The only part where he seems to be getting pleasure is at the beginning. He build the Universe and says “This is looking mighty fine”.
There are 0 jokes in the Bible.
There is poetry but that isn’t poetry written by the jewish god.
It gets so serious that he kills people, does genocides, globacides and sends his only son to be killed.
His goal seems to be to save as many people as possible with the New testament. The goal seems to be to go around the world and preach the good news.
This doesn’t seem to be a joke. It looks like the jewish god/Jesus combo takes it seriously.
Having faith in him is taken seriously, by him.
(December 13, 2021 at 3:37 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Well, why wouldn't they, is that even odd behavior for a god to hear the stories told?
I hope I was able to get my point across with the above observation + examples.
In my view, there is no room for pleasure and wasting time. God is in the serious business of saving lives. Think of it as a hospital.
Hope my explanations helped to clear things up.
