(December 14, 2021 at 11:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Couldn't be more wrong. There are zingers like the parable of the strange woman. Punchline being why should I feed the dogs before people? You're not reading it right.
You mean this one?
Matthew 15:21 KING JAMES VERSION
Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. {15:22} And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. {15:23} But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. {15:24} But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. {15:25} Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. {15:26} But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. {15:27} And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their master’s table. {15:28} Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
In this one, Jesus is saying that he came to Earth for his people, the jews and that “I did not come for little shit stains like you. I don’t give a fuck about you and your daughter.”
The cananite woman did some overtime butt kissing and Jesus said ok, I will heal her.
Also, one of this 12 disciples is a cananite : Simon the Canaanite. So, why is Jesus telling this lady to fuck off?
Quote:Kills people in silly and painfully contrived ways. It seems like you believe a being cant be both jolly and murderous. We can.
LOL. Good one. You are right, you can say that he is jolly and murderous. I will use that when having discussions about Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedang, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler with christians.
Quote:No and no, that's just you, just your culture. A dry reading of the nt is a some will some wont mlm.
I think the writers of the Bible realized that not everyone will join their religion, therefore they make a mention that not everyone is coming along. In fact, in their own time, I’m sure they had job experience. They had years of experience being told to go fuck off and not come knocking again.
Matthew 12:46 KING JAMES VERSION
While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. {12:47} Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. {12:48} But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? {12:49} And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! {12:50} For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
^^^^^In this case, line 12:50 suggests that Jesus understands that some will join his religion and some won’t.
Quote:Why can't or wouldn't a god be having a go at you (and all of humanity) for the pure lelz?
Reading the Bible, it doesn’t give me the impression that the jewish god is doing it for laughs.
So after the Jesus thing of the 1 st century, there is the Mohamed thing of the 7 th century and apparently, the primary reason for the existence of Islam is to get the perfect religion and perfect holy book.
Then, there is the 19 th century thing with Joseph Smith. Again, the claim is that the 1 st century christianity and Bible is crap.
However, if your argument is that secretly, the jewish god is fucking with us, then I would say that you are right and that I would have to insert that into the list.
So, let’s revisit the list of possibilities that I wrote and I will insert #4:
1. Jesus is the son of god and all that. The jewish god is omniscient and omnipotent. This means that he knows of better solution than to write on fragile papyrus, clay, goats or some animal.
Why would he make the choice to have his holy words, his holy story be written on such materials when he can choose something that would remain intact forever?
Yes, Jesus can even time travel and can pick up whatever technology from the future and take it back to his 1 st century and give it to the guys.
2. Jesus is the son of god and all that. He doesn’t care what the holy story is written on, whether the story gets degraded, distorted.
My opinion: That would be a bizarre attitude for a god.
3. Jesus is just an ordinary human. His guys just used whatever tools were available at the time and eventually, that cult succeeded in surviving.
4. Jesus is the son of god and all that. He doesn’t care what the holy story is written on, whether the story gets degraded, distorted.
The god/Jesus combo are doing all this for the fun of it.
Quote:Does the universe you observe look like a thing someone fucking with you would come up with? If it does...and with a "that's the way it was done in this universe" caveat in place.....what action by a god is bizarre, and which... if any... of your expectations of a god... aren't?”
I’m not sure how to answer your question. What is up with the universe?
Quote:As an example, let's say some nt only believer recounts to you how, according to the stories, god wandered around aimlessly turning puddles of washwater into alcoholic beverages. "That's bizarre!" you exclaim. Okay, what, specifically...tellin me you don't prefer liquor to laundry?
Someone prefers liquor to laundry?
Are you saying that someone wants the word of god to get distorted, they want the goat skins on which his holy words are written on to get degraded away and turned to dust? So, that is what the jewish god is delivering?
