RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
January 5, 2022 at 7:49 am
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2022 at 8:06 am by WinterHold.)
(December 24, 2021 at 10:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Gee, I wonder why it might be that you find yourself in such a shitty situation? What is saudi society and governance organized around, again?
Such a limited list magic book has, it only accounts for the majority of people on earth.
You don't know shit..and worse, you can't know shit. It's beyond you. Fried by a superstition and the people who hold it.
Sadly to your argument, the list is very short and here it is:
Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
https://quran.com/6:151?store=false&translations=
(151) Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Come! Let me recite to you what your Lord has forbidden to you: do not associate others with Him ˹in worship˺. ˹Do not fail to˺ honour your parents. Do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for you and for them. Do not come near indecencies, openly or secretly. Do not take a ˹human˺ life—made sacred by Allah—except with ˹legal˺ right.1 This is what He has commanded you, so perhaps you will understand.
(152) And do not come near the wealth of the orphan—unless intending to enhance it—until they attain maturity. Give full measure and weigh with justice. We never require of any soul more than what it can afford. Whenever you speak,1 maintain justice—even regarding a close relative. And fulfil your covenant with Allah. This is what He has commanded you, so perhaps you will be mindful.
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
That is the list the Quran provides.
Any "sin" prohibited by the Quran falls into one of these categories.
But the Hadith books invented thousands of pages as a list.
(January 4, 2022 at 6:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(December 24, 2021 at 3:48 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Believe me I know a lot. I'm a person who lived his whole life as a slave, a second-class citizen with no right to start a business or work freely, my fate is always at the hands of a Saudi native, an inmate of this desert prison called Saudi Arabia,.
I'm no soldier, but tougher than soldiers. That kind of life does permanent longterm mutations to your soul.
As for the list of the Quran; no believe me its very limited; these two verses make it so:
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What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam, and how can you square this with ‘no compulsion in religion’?
Boru
None, there is no penalty !
But in the afterlife the disbeliever will go to hell:
Quote:Sura 16, The Quran:
https://quran.com/16:106?store=false&translations=
(106) Whoever disbelieves in Allah after their belief—not those who are forced while their hearts are firm in faith,1 but those who embrace disbelief wholeheartedly—they will be condemned by Allah and suffer a tremendous punishment.
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
But in this life, there shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of the religion.