RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
January 6, 2022 at 10:42 am
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2022 at 10:49 am by R00tKiT.)
(January 4, 2022 at 7:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: it’s pretty plain that God is going to punish apostates, your comments about disorder and social cohesion aside.
No, it isn't plain, really. Someone can leave religion because he sincerely (but wrongly) thought it was a false religion, for example. God being just in Islam wouldn't punish this person.
There is an authentic hadith where a married woman who committed adultery willingly comes to the Islamic prophet and asks him to apply the penalty (which is stoning to death), the prophet repeatedly rejects her request and asks her to repent privately to God - which is a clear sign that unless adultery or apostasy is provable in court, no penalty is applied-. After the woman insisted and her affair became known, the penalty was eventually applied and the woman was killed as prescribed in the Islamic law. The prophet then told his companions she's going to heaven, and prayed for the deceased woman.
(January 5, 2022 at 8:22 pm)Astreja Wrote:(January 5, 2022 at 1:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But a nonbeliever doesn't believe in God; so promises of damnation after death shouldn't bother them, if they really "didn't believe in anything."
No one likes being threatened, Winter, and to be on the receiving end of a threat generally results in an unhealthy physical reaction as the neuroendocrine system in the body reacts to it.
I hold you personally responsible for uttering threats. You, not your hypothetical god.
The threat of hell is similar to the threat of dying if one jumps from the 102th floor of the Empire State builiding, or if one bites into a cyanide tablet. God tells x not to dishonestly deny Him, but x goes ahead and does it, x doesn't really have the right to complain, since x is not really in charge of the universe.
