RE: Why I believe in God.
November 21, 2011 at 11:10 am
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2011 at 11:14 am by Norfolk And Chance.)
(November 21, 2011 at 7:02 am)chadster1976 Wrote: Norfolk: Insisting the Bible is liberal as a precondition for the existence of God is bonkers. That's like arguing a lemur can't exist because it isn't in my daughter's encyclopaedia or flying cars must exist because of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
No it isn't. You have NO evidence or reason to believe in god. All you have is that damn book laying out his word. That is the only reason anybody has to believe initially, before you bolt on bits that fit your already ingrained belief. Once you establish that belief then try to take the book away and make the belief stand up on it's own, then atheists are perfectly entitled to ask what the hell your belief can be based on? And the answer is always effectively "fuck all".
It is NOT the same as arguing a Lemur doesn't exist because it is not in your daughters encyclopedia. We KNOW Lemurs exist because they are scientifically demonstrable - if a Lemur isn't in a particular book, it's simply an irrelevance. Lemurs are FACT.
However, yeah you're right, arguing god is real based on the bible IS similar to arguing Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is real based on the novel. I'd say that is a theists problem not mine.
Quote:The existence of anything should never rely on one book.
Correct, hence I don't believe in god.
Try following your own advice because you've just dismissed your own reason to believe, because like it or not it is based on one book that you don't even take as literal truth. If only you could step outside your bubble and see how this looks to an atheist...it looks bad.
Quote: Interpretations of the texts are vital but not empirical. Also, I haven't created God in any image. I believe in God's existence and am not willing to put any constraints upon him.
Meaningless blah, all you've said is you believe because you want to believe, basically.
Quote:Allah, God, Jahweh are the same Abrahamic God. How people interpret the writings inspired by him and devise their religious code or law is not necessarily a reflection on God, more on man.
Of course it is a reflection on man, god is non existent.
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Can I just finish off by thanking you for apologising to me for when you wrongly accused me of saying your arse and face were the wrong way around, and for wrongly accusing me of not reading your posts properly.
It takes a big man to recognise and apologise for an error, and doing this showed that you aren't just trying to win at all costs and realise that fairness to the other debator is as important as winning.
Oh...WAIT.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
