RE: Critical Race Theory
January 20, 2022 at 11:28 am
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2022 at 11:41 am by Irreligious Atheist.)
(January 20, 2022 at 11:10 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: If you teach the precepts of something, then you are teaching that thing, be it a legal theory or a religion. It is dishonest to suggest otherwise.
I understand the argument you're making here, and I'm not going to claim to understand CRT well at all, so you could be right, but when you get bogged down in semantics, then the argument with the other side might just remain about whether it actually should be called CRT or not, and that argument will go on and on for pages without anything being resolved. I personally don't care whether we call it CRT or not and don't think that point is necessarily all that important to win, so I've conceded on that point from the start, because I don't see why it really matters whether we call it CRT or not. I choose to focus more on the details, where like you pointed out, kids are being separated based on their race and the pale kids are being branded oppressors, which I think is a point we'll have a better job winning the other side over with, rather than getting bogged down in a ten page argument over "CRT is being taught to kids". "No it's not, this whole issue was just dreamt up by the Republicans and there's nothing to see here." And on and on. If we give them concrete examples of young children being taught inappropriate things, then we might actually win a few people over who haven't been paying attention to what is being taught in schools, and somehow think that this is a big nothing burger all manufactured by republicans, which is a nonsensical take they gobbled up from CNN and believed without actually looking into the truth of the matter.
(January 20, 2022 at 11:17 am)Spongebob Wrote:(January 20, 2022 at 10:47 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: This was all covered on Bill Maher's show with guest Megyn Kelly. 8 year olds were divided up into oppressed and oppressor. 8 year old white kids being called oppressors is pretty fucked and wrong. Toddlers being told to write letters to the Indians baseball team about why they should change their mascot? What kind of nonsense is that to make a toddler do? Can they even read yet?
Now see, I understand that CRT is only taught in universities, and this seems to be the only response you hear from people on the left, is arguing over semantics. That's fine. CRT is not taught in elementary school or highshool. But what is being taught to children, is still pretty messed up, and obviously us whites are not going to be thrilled about our 8 year olds being called oppressors by their teachers. Teach history like you said you wanted to do. This goes beyond that. This is just making children feel bad for being white and beautiful.
Just how many schools or classrooms does this really represent? One school tries it and it is criticized and subsequently cancelled. I'm fine with that. There was one case in Mississippi last year where a teacher threatened a kid with suspension if he didn't stop wearing a star of David necklace. That was a clear case of an educator who is also an idiot. It was called out and he no longer works as an educator. Doesn't mean there's a wave of such behavior. I had an English teacher in high school who read us a daily religious devotional. She was the only one all my years of schooling to do such a thing. It was clearly illegal, but also clearly not a movement. Stop arguing that one-offs are something more than they are.
Just because you haven't been paying attention to the news the past few years, doesn't mean these are one offs. This is happening all over the place. Like Kamala Harris said in a recent interview, "do Google". Do some research. Pay attention to the goings on of the world and your country. If you'd rather not, then go ahead believing the line CNN feeds you about this all being made up by some Republican politicians so they could win an election. Stay in the dark and uninformed if you wish.