(January 21, 2022 at 10:37 am)Spongebob Wrote:(January 20, 2022 at 4:41 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Was it right-wing journalists promising bombshell revelations of Trump-Russian collusion based on fantasies and institutional corruption? Was it the "right" trying to suppress the lab leak hypothesis? Or labeling obvious riots, complete with arson blazing buildings, "peaceful protests"? Or promoting the notion that January 6th was an insurrection without weapons or command structure. Which administration is now holding political prisoners in solitary confinement? The left doesn't get a pass on their shit any more than the right can deny that the old money Bush neo-cons deceived the public and used glorified service members to manipulate public sentiment. The lives ruined and billions wasted to no good end.
Sorry, I don't consider any of those near the same scale or of the same magnitude or even lies, per se. "Promising" revelations of Trump-Russian collusion was not actually a thing. They were confident of it but just couldn't produce the information. And I don't remember any suppression of the lab lead hypothesis. Not reporting something before you have the facts is not the same thing as suppression and anyway, there has never been strong evidence of this, so what you're talking about is basically not reporting on speculation. And I don't give any political party a "pass" on the truth, but you have to acknowledge the avalanche of lies told by the right wing in the past four years. It's orders of magnitude greater than anything told by the left.
One of the biggest "lies" tagged on the Obama administration was the "lie" that the Benghazi attack was known to be of a terrorist nature when it was originally reported that it was just an angry mob that got out of hand. I'll acknowledge that was misinformation, but I think its the kind of thing that the state dept. often does while investigating something. We can't really expect the State Dept. to tell us everything they know about the world. There's still plenty we don't know that's decades old now.
But that's not in the same league with Trump stating publicly that the coronavirus is a hoax and then later stating that it would all just go away when the weather got warm, or that the only reason we had so many positive cases was because we were testing too many people, or that "there's some very good people on both sides", referring to a clash between neo Nazi's and Antifa. And Trump has emboldened his right wing flunkies to lie at will, as seen by how many have outright lied about the events of Jan. 6. The two just can't compete. The right is the champion of lies.
(January 21, 2022 at 10:36 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Considering the nature of the topic being race...it was a poor choice as a joke.
Since you seem to have led up this discussion I was surprised when you threw that in there. Not funny in the least and makes me doubt your sincerity on the subject.
Why?
Read my words, the answer is there.
