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New religion
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RE: New religion
Quote:There is no moral decline. Quite to the contrary. Evils once tolerated, like slavery, war crimes, tyrannical leaders, etc. are now reviled. Even in the last generation, with the end of segregation to greater awareness of human rights, we can see that humans are morally progressing.

Let us get this first – what is moral/ immoral and why? If I understand you correct, you suggest that war crimes, tyrannical leaders were once acceptable ? War crimes still exist, tyrannical leaders still exist, slavery still exists.

Society at large is opposed to homosexuality and pornography yet you suggest that you are in the “right” although according to your own definition, the source of morality is society.
Some of the issues I would suggest is indicative of moral decline are listed in this article”
“The following are 16 cold, hard facts that prove that America has now become a nation full of perverts....
#1) According to one major study, one out of every four married men in the United States confesses to having at least one extramarital affair.  That is just the men who will admit it.  Imagine how many others are having affairs but who are still trying to lie about it.  The truth is that marriage is one of the foundational institutions that society is built upon, but in America today it means next to nothing.
#2) A Focus on the Family survey found that 47% percent of American families said that pornography is a problem in their home.  That is not just a minor problem - that is a national epidemic.
#3) More than 70% of men in the United States between the ages of 18 and 34 visit at least one pornographic website in a typical month.  Yes, you read that correctly - 70 percent.
#4) 89 percent of all pornography is created in the United States.  11 percent is made in the rest of the world.  And yet we like to think of ourselves as so "moral" compared to the rest of the globe.
#5) Researchers conducting a major study at the University of Montreal recently launched a search for men who had never looked at pornography - but could not find a single one.
#6) Law enforcement officials estimate that about 600,000 Americans and 65,000 Canadians are trading dirty child pictures online.  They also say that the profits from creating and trading these images is approximately two to three billion dollars every single year.
#7) Young men in the United States are so addicted to sex and are so incredibly irresponsible that they are getting record numbers of young teen girls pregnant.  In fact, it was recently reported that 115 girls at one high school in Chicago alone either already have a baby or are pregnant right now.  That is absolutely mind blowing.
#8) Thanks to the moral depravity of our young American men, one out of every four teen girls in the United States now has an STD and more than 25 percent of the residents of New York City now have herpes.  Our moral sickness is spreading physical sickness all over the place and is placing a tremendous strain on our health care system.
#9) Last year, MySpace representatives and law enforcement officials worked in conjunction and were finally able to announce that approximately 90,000 sex offenders had been identified and removed from MySpace.  But doesn't it disturb you that there were 90,000 known offenders running around on MySpace in the first place?
#10) Authorities estimate that there are well over 60 million survivors of childhood sexual abuse in the United States today.  Just think about that.  60 million Americans who were abused as kids.  That statistic alone proves that America is a nation just brimming with perverts.
#11) Today there are approximately 400,000 registered sex offenders in the United States.  Yes, that is correct.  400,000 of them.  In fact, there are websites out there where you can see how many of them live on your street.  You might just be surprised.
#12) Authorities also estimate that about 95% of all teenage prostitutes were sexually abused as children.  The abuse of children in the United States is a national tragedy and a national disgrace.
#13) According to researchers, convicted rapists in the United States report that two-thirds of their victims were under 18 and 58% of those said their victims were 12 years old or younger.  How sick is that?
#14) One shocking survey revealed that American men are so completely addicted to pornography that a large number of them can't even wait to get home to look at it.  The survey found that 25 percent of American employees that have Internet access visit pornography websites while they are at work.  Do you know what your employees are doing?
#15) The truth is that producing dirty pictures for Americans is very, very big business.  89 dollars is spent on pornography every single second of every single day in the United States.
#16) In fact, porn industry revenue is larger than all of the revenues for all professional football, baseball and basketball franchises combined.  Just take a moment to think about that.
After reading all of the facts listed above, is there any doubt that America has become a nation that is absolutely overflowing with sickos, weirdos and perverts?
No, there is not.
The United States has become a place where you cannot let your children go out to play in the neighborhood without watching them like a hawk.
The United States has become a place where paedophiles and sexual predators roam neighborhoods and roam Internet chat rooms in increasingly large numbers.
The United States has become a place where looking at dirty pictures and movies on the Internet has become one of the most treasured forms of home entertainment.
Many people are scratching their heads and are wondering why the American Dream is falling apart.  Sure, the fact that the U.S. has piled up the biggest mountain of debt in the history of the world is a huge reason why it is happening.  But also the fact that we have become a nation full of perverts is another gigantic reason for our downfall.
The truth is that there is NO hope for the future of the United States if we continue to behave like this.  No nation can frolic in the moral toilet and be a great nation at the same time for long.  We are destroying our nation by what we have allowed ourselves to become. ”


The following is interesting on what is predicted for the future:
“Robots have no conscience. The only permissible conscience will be the United Nations or a global conscience. Whether an action is good or bad will be decided by a "Global Government's Global Conscience," as recommended by Dr. Brock Chisholm, Executive Secretary of the World Health Organization, Interim Commission, in 1947-and later in 1996 by current United States Secretary of State Madeline Albright.”.

So my friend, you are being brainwashed into as society where a few people will decide what is right and wrong (you should have no problem, as you already accept that society makes the rules), and the funny thing is that you accuse Christians of being brainwashed. Also read up on Americans being “dumbed down”.

You are encouraging this regression into a nation of immoral people and call that “free thinking”?

    Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Daniel Lapin says this in his book, America’s Real War, (1999, Multnomah Publishers): 
Often, as I speak on these issues across the country, someone in the audience hurls this tired old corker: ‘The religious Right is trying to force its values down our throats.’  I have a standard response which I enjoy offering.  I inform my listeners that the secular Left has introduced sexual indoctrination and condom distribution to eleven-year-old public school students.  It has made the enjoyment of tobacco the moral equivalent of child molestation.  It has dramatically increased illegitimacy in America.  It has created an entertainment ethos that brings smut and vulgarity into our living rooms.

Even Oscar Wilde (not known for his Christian values), make these interesting comments:
“It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help"
“America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.”

So it all seems like a bit of doom and gloom? No, there is yet hope for those that will accept Christ. Nobody has done things bad enough not to be forgiven and the assurance is given that

Joh 6:37 …...him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Jesus invites each and every one to

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

My friend, the answer is not more laws and international tribunals, and “free thinkers”, it comes down to a change in heart.


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New religion - by xxxtobymac - October 6, 2011 at 1:20 pm
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