(November 28, 2021 at 4:20 pm)brookelauren25 Wrote: Someone implied I was not rational for being a Christian and I brought up the eyewitnesses to the resurrection of Jesus. I said this to give an example of how it is rational to be a Christian because there are logical reasons to believe it - not just emotional reasons. I wasn't making this comment to evangelize or try to evangelize.
Since I'm not here to evangelize, I'm not going to get into apologetics - or not on this thread anyway because I know it's not the place.
HappySkeptic - I don't believe in a "young Earth" either. I believe the scientific record on age of the earth, universe, etc. Do you think Genesis teaches a literal 6 day creation? I am curious if any of you have found Genesis to be a cause for unbelief because the scientific record seems to contradict what is taught in Genesis?
There is no need for witnesses. There is no need for a god to put himself inside a human cell and to spend 9 months in a woman's uterus. There is no need for him to spend years as a baby, as an infant, as a child, as a teenager. All that is a big waste of time.
If you are the jewish god and If you don't want to harm people and you love people, then don't create a hell.
If you want to save people from death, then don't create death.
In fact, why would a god need to make stuff out of atoms?
Is he made of atoms?
I think there were eyewitnesses as well except that I think they didn't see any resurrection or anything magical.
Once in a while, a new cult leader pops up and gets himself an audience. Most people are wise enough to not follow the cult leader but there are some who have an emotional need to follow someone, or they want to be closer to god, or they want a teacher .... I don't know. Humans vary a lot.
Have you looked into cults? Most cults eventually disappear but once in a while, one of them becomes successful. Look at Islam. How did it succeed? I hear that Mohamed didn't do any magic yet he managed to get a large following and it grew. Eventually, it was claimed that he didn't die. He climbed on a white horse with wings and flew into space-heaven.
Have you looked at mormonism? The guy didn't even show the "golden book" to anybody and he managed to convince 2 followers that they saw it, then he managed to convince his family, his entourage. It grew from that to a 10 million to 16 million personnel.
Now that is a huge business. Much bigger than Microsoft, GM, Ford, Intel, Reybolds.
Yes, I do think that the ancients jews believed in a 6 day creation event and this went on until science began addressing these questions. Over time, the scientific endeavor grew and built itself up into a reputable corporation.
Science never bends itself to religion and it should not.
On the contrary, once a logical explanation becomes available, the old superstition is thrown away. For example, how to you explain earthquakes? How do you explain disease?
The reverse never happens. We don't throw away the logical or scientific explanation and replace it with superstition.
Also, the ancient jews were flat earthers.