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A different perspective
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RE: A different perspective
(February 23, 2022 at 11:26 am)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(February 23, 2022 at 11:11 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well yeah, maybe, but most humans seem to think there's a point to all this shit, and if there's going to be a point, then "building character" would be that point.

The universe doesn't exist for "you".  It doesn't care about you, it isn't your daddy, and it is a place inhospitable for life except for some rare planets, and even then life has to evolve to thrive in that niche.

The universe doesn't care what your character is, and evolution is a process that says that survival and reproduction results in continued existence for a species.

Most of the bible doesn't say that life is a test for getting into heaven.  It says that life was the intention, but that life was supposed to be a paradise, and was corrupted.  Suffering is a result of a corrupted world, and God can't wait to destroy the whole creation and create a new "physical" paradise.  It was only Paul who believed that the next life was spiritual and not physical.
You're not wrong. But if humans have decided they want/need to suffer, for a purpose that transcends this physical dimension, then that want/need to suffer, should be seen as a good thing, because through and because of suffering, people are creating their own afterlives.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 19, 2022 at 8:17 pm
RE: A different perspective - by Silver - February 19, 2022 at 8:21 pm
RE: A different perspective - by brewer - February 19, 2022 at 8:39 pm
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RE: A different perspective - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 19, 2022 at 8:52 pm
RE: A different perspective - by Belacqua - February 19, 2022 at 9:07 pm
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RE: A different perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2022 at 10:01 pm
RE: A different perspective - by arewethereyet - February 19, 2022 at 10:06 pm
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 20, 2022 at 12:27 am
RE: A different perspective - by arewethereyet - February 20, 2022 at 12:31 am
RE: A different perspective - by AFTT47 - February 20, 2022 at 1:08 am
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 20, 2022 at 2:12 am
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 22, 2022 at 9:41 pm
RE: A different perspective - by arewethereyet - February 22, 2022 at 10:06 pm
RE: A different perspective - by Silver - February 22, 2022 at 9:43 pm
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 22, 2022 at 9:46 pm
RE: A different perspective - by LadyForCamus - February 23, 2022 at 11:05 am
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RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 23, 2022 at 10:16 am
RE: A different perspective - by Angrboda - February 23, 2022 at 11:09 am
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 23, 2022 at 11:11 am
RE: A different perspective - by HappySkeptic - February 23, 2022 at 11:26 am
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 23, 2022 at 11:50 am
RE: A different perspective - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2022 at 11:53 am
RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - February 23, 2022 at 11:56 am
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RE: A different perspective - by Silver - February 23, 2022 at 6:43 pm
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RE: A different perspective - by Ahriman - March 15, 2022 at 3:57 pm
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