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The Origins of the Universe
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
(March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am)polymath257 Wrote:
(March 18, 2022 at 12:04 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Expanding can be described as splitting apart. Something is expanding, after all.

Nope. The two are not even close to being the same.

And it is space itself that is expanding, not anything material.


Quote:You should bear in mind that the Qur'an is conveying the account of creation to people who lived in the 7th century. So the words that one should expect should mean something that these people can relate to.

And that doesn't make the falsehoods in the account any less false. It isn't even a good analogy.

Quote:How? On the contrary, it goes in the direction of creation ex nihilo. It doesn't confirm it completely, I give you that, but we're one step closer to the religious account of how the world began.

Also, don't forget that the Big bang theory was originally suggested by a catholic priest, Georges Lemaître. I don't see why a priest would advocate a theory that supposedly damages their beliefs, as you seem to imply here.

LeMaitre also warned the pope not to try to use the Big Bang theory as a support of religious views.

The *physics* and the *evidence* supports the BB theory. it has *nothing* to do with religious beliefs.

In particular, in the BB version that LeMaitre proposed there is no 'before the Big Bang'. Time itself starts when the universe does.
Klor seems to labor under the idea that if faced with something that challenged his beliefs he would either suppress it or lose his faith.... So Klor is both intellectually and spiritually weak. Also it's not even necessary to accept the creation ex nihilo to be Catholic ..... Dodgy
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The Origins of the Universe - by king krish - January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 9, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by abaris - January 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Chad32 - January 9, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by LostLocke - January 9, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by JuliaL - January 9, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by IATIA - January 9, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 4:31 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Alex K - January 10, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - February 26, 2022 at 10:19 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Paleophyte - February 28, 2022 at 1:56 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Anomalocaris - February 26, 2022 at 10:44 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2022 at 1:27 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Architect Of Fate - February 27, 2022 at 3:00 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Goosebump - February 27, 2022 at 3:49 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - February 28, 2022 at 5:20 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by no one - February 28, 2022 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Disagreeable - March 1, 2022 at 5:23 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by GrandizerII - March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 11, 2022 at 6:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Nay_Sayer - March 11, 2022 at 7:22 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 11, 2022 at 8:06 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by GrandizerII - March 12, 2022 at 6:26 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 15, 2022 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 16, 2022 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 17, 2022 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 18, 2022 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 18, 2022 at 2:20 pm
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RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2022 at 7:33 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Deesse23 - March 19, 2022 at 10:59 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Architect Of Fate - March 20, 2022 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2022 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 12, 2022 at 1:30 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2022 at 5:21 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by brewer - March 12, 2022 at 10:16 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2022 at 10:15 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2022 at 12:06 pm
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RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 20, 2022 at 10:37 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2022 at 3:45 pm
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