(March 22, 2022 at 5:17 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(March 21, 2022 at 8:18 am)brewer Wrote: If a tree falls in the forest (on earth) and there are no humans around does it make a sound?
A decibel meter says yes. Not everything is a head game.
(somebody please move this to philosophy, that's where it's headed)
I always appreciate what you have to say on such matters, Brew. You always pick solid, defensible positions. Normally, I'd offer some counterpoints to what you say, but I've come to think you perceive such conversations as me "antagonizing you with philosophy" rather than me scrutinizing your position and offering counterpoints. I don't really want to antagonize you (or anyone else) with these discussions. I just want to examine these topics with interested parties. I don't apologize for the level of scrutiny I provide, but neither do I fault anyone who says, "To me, this isn't a worthwhile discussion."
And, yeah, this discussion would be at home in the philosophy subforum. But a lot of things that are placed in semi-related subforums could be also be placed in the philosophy subforum, to be fair. Especially for politics. I think this topic relates reasonably enough to the physical sciences to be put here. It's about something we have in physics (laws of nature). But, whatever. It's cool if this gets moved to the philosophy subforum.
No big deal but just call a spade a spade. If you don't think its philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/laws-of-nature/
And you're correct, I don't want to be part of a discussion of what is considered as a law of nature. That's a philosophical discussion that I simply have little stomach for.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.