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The Origins of the Universe
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
(March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am)polymath257 Wrote:
(March 18, 2022 at 12:04 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Expanding can be described as splitting apart. Something is expanding, after all.

Nope. The two are not even close to being the same.

And it is space itself that is expanding, not anything material.

If space is expanding, any two galaxies are also expanding, AFAIK. I am not sure why you say here "not anything material"......?

And it's hard to convey the idea that space is expanding to people 14 centuries ago, you know. You should always keep in mind that the Qur'an's message is also directed to people who lived a while ago, with very limited scientific understanding.

(March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am)polymath257 Wrote: And that doesn't make the falsehoods in the account any less false. It isn't even a good analogy.

You didn't point out any "falsehood" so far, you're just complaining that the Qur'an didn't convey modern theory verbatim, which is not even possible if its audience lived in the 7th century.

(March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am)polymath257 Wrote: LeMaitre also warned the pope not to try to use the Big Bang theory as a support of religious views.

The *physics* and the *evidence* supports the BB theory. it has *nothing* to do with religious beliefs.

In particular, in the BB version that LeMaitre proposed there is no 'before the Big Bang'. Time itself starts when the universe does.

The BB theory is obviously compatible with orthodox religious beliefs about the beginning of the world. You still didn't explain why you think the BB theory is damaging for the Islamic account of creation. The Qur'an could've easily claimed that the Earth or the sky always existed.
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The Origins of the Universe - by king krish - January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 9, 2015 at 6:55 pm
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RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Chad32 - January 9, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by LostLocke - January 9, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by JuliaL - January 9, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by IATIA - January 9, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by vorlon13 - January 9, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by robvalue - January 10, 2015 at 4:31 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Alex K - January 10, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - February 26, 2022 at 10:19 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Paleophyte - February 28, 2022 at 1:56 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Anomalocaris - February 26, 2022 at 10:44 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2022 at 1:27 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Architect Of Fate - February 27, 2022 at 3:00 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Goosebump - February 27, 2022 at 3:49 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - February 28, 2022 at 5:20 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by no one - February 28, 2022 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Disagreeable - March 1, 2022 at 5:23 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by GrandizerII - March 1, 2022 at 2:52 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 11, 2022 at 6:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Nay_Sayer - March 11, 2022 at 7:22 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 11, 2022 at 8:06 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by GrandizerII - March 12, 2022 at 6:26 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 15, 2022 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 16, 2022 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 17, 2022 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 18, 2022 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 18, 2022 at 2:20 pm
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RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Abaddon_ire - March 18, 2022 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2022 at 7:33 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Deesse23 - March 19, 2022 at 10:59 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by polymath257 - March 20, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2022 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 12, 2022 at 1:30 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2022 at 5:21 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by brewer - March 12, 2022 at 10:16 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2022 at 10:15 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2022 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Angrboda - March 18, 2022 at 3:36 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Jehanne - March 20, 2022 at 10:37 am
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2022 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Ranjr - March 23, 2022 at 4:12 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Angrboda - March 23, 2022 at 4:29 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2022 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by arewethereyet - March 23, 2022 at 5:56 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2022 at 6:08 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by arewethereyet - March 23, 2022 at 6:10 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by R00tKiT - March 23, 2022 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2022 at 5:51 pm
RE: The Origins of the Universe - by Silver - March 23, 2022 at 6:23 pm
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