RE: Turkey's role in middle eastern politics
November 25, 2011 at 7:26 pm
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2011 at 7:32 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(November 25, 2011 at 7:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote: A sort of new turkish empire? Yeah, gl with that. Your "brothers" will most likely disappoint you.It's more likely that we disappoint them, as we did so far.
We have initiated "friendly relations" with Armenia, wheras Karabagh still stands as an open wound in the hearts of many Azerbaijani Turks, have initiated "friendly relations" with Northern Iraq even though we have received reports that birth certificates and other manners of documents relating to the numbers of Iraqi Turkmen were burnt by the peshmerga, and we have initiated "friendly relations" with China, even though we know that China brutally represses the Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Turks in China, it is a miracle that they still call us brothers, and I know that they do, as I have many friends of other Turk nations, and we have founded a group here in my school that advocates this idea.
It is not a far fetched dream. We need to raise awareness that we are one, and will not sell our souls to no other nation, may they be European, Russian or Chinese.
Quote:Isreal, for the record, was formed from the ashes of WW2, not the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire hadn't existed in a little over three decades at that point. It had passed it's prime nearly four hundred years earlier as well.Well, the British Mandate of Palestine was actually a part of the Ottoman Empire, and before that, it has been ruled by many other Turkish dynasties, dating back to the great Seljuk empire.
The British also had a "jewish brigade" amongst their troops in the middle eastern theatre, and Lloyd George was also a prominent advocate of Zionism, in supplement to his staunch anti-Turkist stance.
Quote:"The rise of nationalism swept through many countries during the 19th century, and it affected territories within the Ottoman Empire. A burgeoning national consciousness, together with a growing sense of ethnic nationalism, made nationalistic thought one of the most significant Western ideas imported to the Ottoman empire."And to note, the Turks of the Ottoman empire were actually the last people to embrace nationalism, whereas any non Turkish nation had decided to fuck over the Turks, despite the common view in Turkey that they were like provoked by other powers.
There was no provocation. Turks never had any other friends but Turks, but our people, in their humanistic delusions believe that.
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