Turkey's role in middle eastern politics

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Our shortcomings had virtually no other impact on anyone else, but us.

You can't be serious.

I certainly am.

You're right. Conquered peoples are totally better off under the tender loving watch of their conquerors. So maybe you should stop complaining about the Arabs? You Turks were obviously better off when they were in charge. Look at you now, the "ass of the middle east".

The arabs were never really in charge of any Turkish nations. They only owned a couple of thousand of slaves as ghulams, who later took power.
That's it. And us being the ass of the middle east has to do with only a single thing. Politicians. If we would have continued the old ways of only having a Turk rule over the other, instead of allowing non-turks to masquarade themselves as Turks, we wouldn't be here.

Whats up, warrior cultures are awesome until they use nuclear weapons, then it's somehow less than palatable?

America and a warrior culture? Whatever "warrior culture" you have is simply due to the immigrants that bring it over to you. The rest of your culture is based on fulfilling selfish materialistic desires.

Sounds like some pansy pacifist shit. I don't think you'd mesh well in a warrior culture.

You'll see how well I fit in with the warrior culture when I hit the first pages on a newspaper.

Because nationality and ethnicity are decidedly different things.

In America, yes.
Not here, though, even though people have tried to make it as such, no one has accepted the name of "Turk" as a national thing but the Turks themselves.

HE HAS (or should I say HAD) legal custody of them. They were abducted from him. His family appealed to the Turkish president earlier who was in Hampshire during a state visit, and he drove right past them. There's how well his notion of "politics" works over in the west...

I've read that too. It's a family thing and...In Turkey such things happen too...Turks who are married to foreigners living in Turkey with children, mother decides that she doesn't want to live in Turkey anymore,and takes flight back to her european country of origin without warning.
And the father can't see the children even if they're alive and all, so what can you really expect?
And I am not sure what really appealing to the Turkish president will bring.
The courts have decided, and is the president above the court?
What do you think this country is? The law is above everyone.

I don't care much for your sense of "national identity" or anyone else's for that matter.

Well, you asked, I responded.