Turkey's role in middle eastern politics

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Wow, you are incapable of actually replying by refuting my post. All you know is propaganda that "patriotic" mommy and daddy shoved up your ass.

As I said a page back, my mother or father told me nothing about armenians or whatsoever. They just told me that I should be a productive member of my society, honor my family, and respect our founding fathers.
My grandmother talked only when I asked her if she knew anything about this issue when it was aired on TV on public discussion.
You only know to speak, speak, speak. Like it's bad to actually raise your kids as patriots and nationalists.

The armenians surely raise their kids to be full armenian nationalists to the extreme, and I see many of them out there, many in stormfront, going there, claiming aryan heritage, but getting their butts kicked when not even the stormfags accept these as "white", something that they all desperately try to be(but fail horribly at).

Yes, they were.

No they weren't.

You posted a half-assed history. I pointed out what you left out. It was not inflammatory. I said nothing of "terrible" Turks. I'm not one of those idiots who blames an entire race for the actions of zealots.

You already did so;

It is 100% without a doubt certain that the Turks went around killing people.

Your people slaughtered their people and "exiled" them to death camps.

And you're going to tell me that you didn't mean it that way. As you say it.
However, it does not really matter if it was the actions of "zealots", the whole Turkish people will at the end get the blame, and will also be the ones to pay for it.

No, starvation, poison, shooting, drowning, beatings, etc.

And that's how you kill 1.5 million people. Very systematic, poison, I mean. Come people, get your poison shots today! Are you the ones for the death ferry? Oh, you're still around, oh wow.
This crap is unbelievable. Like beatings and shootings, okay, that sounds reasonable. Drowning and poisoning? I don't think that we'd actually go through so much bother to kill a person. This is rubbish.

Are you retarded? It was your justice system that I am talking about, not the international hearings that were held.

"Your" justice system? And I tell you that it was "your" justice system that let them out. It was "our" justice system who declared our founding father Atatürk and the Turkish army that was fighting the Greek invasion in Anatolia to be traitors aswell. And who are we to contest the Courts in the in Istanbul which was under Allied occupation, btw? Atatürk is a traitor for fighting the Greek army(whom the Sheik-ul Islam in Istanbul declared to be the Army of the Caliph). And you want me to believe that our courts declared these men guilty because they were guilty?

Funny, we released the ones we took, but your country had the ones they found guilty sentenced to death. You really should have gone with that history degree.

And I'm telling you that the same country that you're talking about, the Ottoman empire, has found Atatürk and the leaders of the revolution and anyone who sided with them to be traitors, and merited the death sentence upon them. The Sultan was in active collaboration with the Allied forces to keep his throne, and has agreed to every single thing that the Allied demanded of him.

No, they are not. There have always been some who claim 600,000 and some who claim more. They are not changing. They have always been varied. Anyway, there is no difference between 10 and 1 million to me.

When it comes to Turks, everything is possible.

Commanding officer: Şükrü Kaya Where: There was more than one, look it up yourself. Occupants: Armenians. Number of deaths: However many your people killed and covered up. The records are in the testimony of your people, the Armenians and people of other countries, including my own, who saw them. Again, look it up yourself. You know it is there. I won't spoonfeed it to you.

Şükrü Kaya?
I know who he is, however I can't even find a single google result relating to him. Even though, people also accused our founding father Atatürk to have taken part in the so-called genocide aswell. Like producing elaborate false photographs of him sitting amongst dead armenians whereas he was only sitting in his front yard with puppies.

Well, lucky for me the "Allied powers," by which you mean England, were not the only ones to witness your country's folly.

Oh sure, italians and americans and etc...All of which were part of the allied forces.

Are you sure you are capable of sympathy? We are talking about victims that included children. How can you be so inhumane and ridiculous?

If they cared so much about their children, they wouldn't have staged an open revolt against the empire and it's mussulman citizens. They knew that we were going to retaliate in one way or the other.

Yes, those big scary women and children were just asking for it. You sound like a rapist.

And how exactly were our women at fault? The dry wood burned along with the wet.
It's quite common during rebellions, you know.
However, the main point was to exile them to a place where they could not cause any trouble anymore, even if they didn't participate in anything. This was done in order to remove the threat of another armed rebellion. It was a strategic descision.

You really need to read more.

Still won't change my mind. Our historians and people who have committed themselves on this issue read pro-genocide documents every time. They still maintain the position that it is false.

Oh my fucking word. You are hi-lar-i-ous.

You'll see.

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And as a side note, there is a faction of "Turks" in Turkey who are campaigning for the recognition of the so-called genocide. No historians or whatsoever are found amongst them. On the other side, we have the famous historian İlber Ortaylı, another Crimean Tatar historian, who also called the so-called genocide nothing but bullshit.