Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 11, 2024, 10:03 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Belief without Verification or Certainty
#5
RE: Belief without Verification or Certainty
I'm reminded of the hedonistis treadmill and the fact that as humans, we maintain an unrealistically positive outlook, at times in spite of evidence to the contrary. We probably would not be as successful as we are as a species if we didn't. It's said that people who are depressed have a more "realistic" outlook on life, but such a realistic outlook seems to be a negative rather than a positive. So, sure, unjustified beliefs can have some utility in maintaining our motivation.

At the same time, I'm reminded of all the self-help talk about improving a person's self-confidence leading to improved chances of success. Yet there were suggestions from some studies that people who succeed have higher self-confidence than people who don't, so it's not clear that self-confidence is the lever that enables success or simply the result of that success. In general, I would place such things under the heading of useful myths. It is a dogma of many that if you work hard and do what you're supposed to in life, that you will succeed. However, there's good reason to believe that luck and circumstance play a much larger role in whether one will become the next millionaire than hard work or intelligence. Yet without this belief, people would likely be less motivated to work hard. In that I see the invisible hand of evolution. A wise man once told me that luck is the meeting of skill and opportunity. If you aren't working hard and doing the right things, even if life selects you out of the millions who will do likewise and not succeed, you aren't going to be able to take advantage of the opportunity. Evolution drives the many so that the few will result.

I have to take issue with William James here, as this is a just so story, not based upon any actual study of the matter. Sure, a lack of confidence in the jumper may lead him to failure, but undue confidence can lead to failure as well, in leading the climber to be less careful about how he makes his jump, or in preparing his leap. Just as confidence can aid success, it can also hinder it by encouraging negligence. So I'm not sure what to make of James' argument other than, well, maybe.
[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Belief without Verification or Certainty - by Angrboda - May 6, 2022 at 9:29 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [Serious] Questions about Belief and Personal Identity Neo-Scholastic 27 2830 June 11, 2021 at 8:28 pm
Last Post: arewethereyet
  Good Arguments (Certainty vs. Probability) JAG 12 1412 October 8, 2020 at 10:30 pm
Last Post: Sal
  Is Belief in God ethical? vulcanlogician 28 3495 November 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  Honesty and certainty. Mystic 23 3663 March 31, 2018 at 11:54 am
Last Post: Mystic
  William James and Belief In Belief Mudhammam 0 704 November 2, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Last Post: Mudhammam
  Knowledge and belief in God Harris 37 5725 April 29, 2016 at 8:00 am
Last Post: paulpablo
  Is world better without Saddam? TrueChristian 90 15202 December 31, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Test my belief system robvalue 84 15166 September 8, 2015 at 10:41 am
Last Post: Sappho
  The Ethics of Belief Pyrrho 32 8802 July 25, 2015 at 2:27 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  My View on Belief vs. Knowledge GrandizerII 29 8438 March 4, 2015 at 7:12 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)