(May 18, 2022 at 12:57 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You must not be familiar with the human heart or desire. Trying to control people all following their respective bliss is like herding cats. That, in point of fact, is the main criticism of secular values. That individualism does not offer the levers on control that, for example, christian theism provides. In short...that it can't be used for control to good effect, and that's a bad thing.Well people are still being controlled and said people are abiding by secular values.
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