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[Edwardo Piet]

It's not that atheists get offended by remarks such as these, we are far too intelligent and enlightened

It's just that after a while they get really boring and stifle any chance for a decent discussion.

You should go over to the facebook discussion about God and see some of the nonsense that goes on there..

http://www.new.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...opic=12311

Yeah I agree that it CAN as you put it: 'get really boring and stifle any chance for a decent discussion.'

But I do think its ALSO important for us to practice our arguments against fundies and creationists...and really refine them....because they are the ones who are the most at risk and need the most help. Because 'they actually believe what they say they believe'...'good people do good things and bad people to bad things - but for a good person to bad things; it takes religion' etc, etc, etc.

And of course over the internet you are quite safe.

Providing you don't invite any psycho-fundies round to your house lol.

So I think both causes are important to some extent....Obviously debating with other atheists strengthens our evidence against god and we learn about scientific stuff....talking to intelligent less-fundie theists also helps us because we have a good discussion....but also talking with more fundamental theists also helps (IMO) because we can practice trying to help somewhat (however small) contribute to abolishing the slavery of faith. I think that more reasonable theists are closer to our level of understanding than fundies....SO.....the challenge is going to be trying to - to put it bluntly - de-convert the fundies.