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A Believer's Thoughts on Faith
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith
(June 29, 2022 at 1:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It kinda stretches the accepted standards of ‘evidence’ all out of shape, doesn’t it?
Ish and/or Not Really?  Evidence is simply what is evident.  A person who thinks that Moloch helped them find their keys is absolutely mounting an argument from evidence - I just think it's a poor argument from poor evidence.

Quote:If a religious experience isn’t replicable, it isn’t evidence. If Jesus comes to me in a dream, how is that any more evidentiary than if Zlorg, the Slug Empress of Altair VI does the same thing? One common definition of evidence is that it is the available body of facts that are useful in determining whether or not a particular proposition is true (or at least valid). I don’t see how a spiritual or religious experience, unique to one individual, can be viewed as a fact - or even as information - to support the proposition ‘God exists’.

The most the can be said for such an experience is that it supports the claim, ‘I believe that God exists.’

Boru

Evidence doesn't have to be replicable, it is (again) simply that which is evident.  We can upend this entire debate about evidence and what is evident and how that interfaces with faith by suggesting that people can (and have) conceived of faiths wholly comprised of what is evident that neither you nor I would object to -as- evident.  Neither of us belongs to those religions, so it hardly matters..practically..but it is a thing that can be done.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 27, 2022 at 4:35 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 27, 2022 at 6:57 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Brian37 - June 29, 2022 at 2:53 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Pat Mustard - June 27, 2022 at 8:27 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - June 28, 2022 at 6:14 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - June 29, 2022 at 11:08 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 29, 2022 at 12:09 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by awty - June 29, 2022 at 12:23 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 28, 2022 at 6:29 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Nay_Sayer - June 28, 2022 at 10:03 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - June 28, 2022 at 11:12 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by brewer - June 27, 2022 at 8:34 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Gwaithmir - June 27, 2022 at 9:26 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - June 27, 2022 at 10:56 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 28, 2022 at 5:44 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - June 28, 2022 at 7:20 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by brewer - June 28, 2022 at 7:38 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Pat Mustard - June 28, 2022 at 12:02 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 29, 2022 at 6:13 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Fake Messiah - June 29, 2022 at 8:22 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 28, 2022 at 5:56 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by brewer - June 28, 2022 at 7:48 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Mister Agenda - June 28, 2022 at 9:43 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 28, 2022 at 1:41 pm
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 28, 2022 at 3:50 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 28, 2022 at 3:51 pm
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 28, 2022 at 7:09 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - June 28, 2022 at 8:06 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 28, 2022 at 9:04 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 29, 2022 at 9:12 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - June 29, 2022 at 9:40 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 29, 2022 at 12:32 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2022 at 12:38 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - June 30, 2022 at 8:57 pm
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - June 30, 2022 at 9:38 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 30, 2022 at 9:55 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - July 1, 2022 at 12:05 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 1, 2022 at 7:47 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Nay_Sayer - June 30, 2022 at 10:05 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Mister Agenda - July 1, 2022 at 9:16 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Angrboda - July 1, 2022 at 11:19 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - July 5, 2022 at 6:53 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Pat Mustard - June 29, 2022 at 2:26 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2022 at 12:38 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 29, 2022 at 1:10 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Anomalocaris - June 30, 2022 at 3:08 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 29, 2022 at 1:26 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2022 at 1:57 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Anomalocaris - June 29, 2022 at 1:58 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 29, 2022 at 8:29 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Brian37 - June 29, 2022 at 9:26 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Pat Mustard - June 30, 2022 at 1:32 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - June 30, 2022 at 2:28 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2022 at 10:48 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 30, 2022 at 3:24 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - June 30, 2022 at 8:15 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by awty - June 30, 2022 at 6:56 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 30, 2022 at 6:58 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Angrboda - June 30, 2022 at 9:17 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2022 at 10:07 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2022 at 11:56 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - June 30, 2022 at 7:41 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - June 30, 2022 at 8:16 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Peebo-Thuhlu - June 30, 2022 at 9:32 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - July 1, 2022 at 2:24 am
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - July 1, 2022 at 7:57 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by awty - July 1, 2022 at 8:01 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - July 1, 2022 at 9:54 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by awty - July 1, 2022 at 11:03 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 1, 2022 at 9:55 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - July 1, 2022 at 8:21 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - July 2, 2022 at 2:23 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Pat Mustard - July 3, 2022 at 2:43 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 1, 2022 at 8:30 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - July 2, 2022 at 7:17 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Deesse23 - July 2, 2022 at 12:54 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2022 at 2:42 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 2, 2022 at 2:16 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Nay_Sayer - July 2, 2022 at 2:57 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 2, 2022 at 3:38 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2022 at 4:58 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by rlp21858 - July 2, 2022 at 5:42 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Nay_Sayer - July 2, 2022 at 6:41 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 2, 2022 at 6:58 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 2, 2022 at 8:17 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2022 at 10:12 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Astreja - July 2, 2022 at 7:58 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - July 5, 2022 at 9:08 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 5, 2022 at 9:12 pm
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Huggy Bear - July 6, 2022 at 2:30 am
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Mister Agenda - July 6, 2022 at 9:47 am
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Angrboda - July 7, 2022 at 8:31 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by TheJefe817 - July 7, 2022 at 8:41 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Angrboda - July 7, 2022 at 8:43 am
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 7, 2022 at 9:16 am
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RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Mister Agenda - July 9, 2022 at 8:32 am
RE: A Believer's Thoughts on Faith - by Jehanne - July 9, 2022 at 3:43 pm

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