(June 29, 2022 at 2:26 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:(June 29, 2022 at 2:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That was my suggestion, actually, but I’m not nearly petty enough to mention it.
Boru
Pretty sure I remember you writing that you supported not chasing in the individual case of Patrick Lyoya, rather than as a rule of thumb. Nudge seemed to be more openly in support of it as a general rule than you were.
And I think this is good news in some ways. Not chasing people for being drunk in public? That's great. People should never have been chased for being drunk in public or high on any other drug, unless they're a real threat to others. Police not allowed to chase someone who's been driving with a suspended license? Not so sure about that one, but I haven't exactly spent hours looking into studies on this, so maybe I'm just missing the obvious.
Um "DIP" to me would depend. I once took a trip to Japan, and went to the Hard Rock in Tokyo. Now business people there do love their beer and saki. I had an Austrian businessman tell me he loved the safety of the city. He told me he saw a passed out drunk Japanese man in a suit with his wallet sticking out of his back pocket. He said when he came back about a hour later, he was still there and still had his wallet. That shit would never happen in a major city in America. At best you would just loose your wallet.
But again as far as DIP yes and no. Yes if the person does not seem to be obnoxious or looking to fight someone, leave them alone. But if someone calls 911 because the drunk person is making threats of violence or pushing people to instigate a fight, then yes, pursue them, just don't be a douchebag and shoot them in the back especially if they are unarmed.