The point of this question originally, before all the BS, was to ask how the preceding question was possible............The reason I joined this forum was to see how people thought about GOD, in contrast to religion and science.........I saw a post about science upstaging GOD..........so I started this post.
To be fair, I will say I HATE religion and what is really stands for, and I used to be an atheist. I saw no other way or evidence. Until I started to ask the right questions, and wanted to share at least one of these questions I asked with the readers of this forum.
Beyond all the mystery about the beginnings of everything, it seems to be a question that is asked in discussion........"Well how did it all begin?" And "how can you prove it". The truth is, that no one can ever know exactly what the deal is, but there is a lot of evidence as to what happened after the big bang. Beating a dead horse there. One of these pieces of evidence, is the measureable distance of the known universe. I am not a scientist, and it is likely beyond most full comprehension, but lets say that the science is right, or at least close and the scientist know what they are talking about. (which in many cases they do) This pertains specifically to after the big bang..............
In order for light to exist, there must be a cause...........you know, cause and effect. So it stands to reason, that the universe, would in fact be larger than the distance that light would have travelled in the same time, because it came into existence after, long after. You cant get something from nothing right? as in the first law of thermodynamics: also known as the law of conservation of energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but it can be changed from one form to another.
So, with that in mind, "stuff came first" (cause) then light (effect). Interesting concept, that is backed up by all the laws of physics, especially thermodynamics.
I have been very analytical.......wanting proof of everything.................and if you would speak to anyone looking for facts in a case, say a murder case, or fraud case, or really any investigation, they will tell you that the two most important aspects of finding out the truth in a story, is finding out two things about the author............
What did they know and when did they know it?
Genesis 1-4
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
How did these hut dwelling individuals know that "stuff" came first, and light came after? When did they know it? Well the book is older than all of us, especially modern science, so I will let you decide that.
Was it just a good guess?
It was then that I found out many other truths in science that PROVE the existence of GOD. And now I understand it to be no other way.
For what its worth, there was a big bang.
To be fair, I will say I HATE religion and what is really stands for, and I used to be an atheist. I saw no other way or evidence. Until I started to ask the right questions, and wanted to share at least one of these questions I asked with the readers of this forum.
Beyond all the mystery about the beginnings of everything, it seems to be a question that is asked in discussion........"Well how did it all begin?" And "how can you prove it". The truth is, that no one can ever know exactly what the deal is, but there is a lot of evidence as to what happened after the big bang. Beating a dead horse there. One of these pieces of evidence, is the measureable distance of the known universe. I am not a scientist, and it is likely beyond most full comprehension, but lets say that the science is right, or at least close and the scientist know what they are talking about. (which in many cases they do) This pertains specifically to after the big bang..............
In order for light to exist, there must be a cause...........you know, cause and effect. So it stands to reason, that the universe, would in fact be larger than the distance that light would have travelled in the same time, because it came into existence after, long after. You cant get something from nothing right? as in the first law of thermodynamics: also known as the law of conservation of energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but it can be changed from one form to another.
So, with that in mind, "stuff came first" (cause) then light (effect). Interesting concept, that is backed up by all the laws of physics, especially thermodynamics.
I have been very analytical.......wanting proof of everything.................and if you would speak to anyone looking for facts in a case, say a murder case, or fraud case, or really any investigation, they will tell you that the two most important aspects of finding out the truth in a story, is finding out two things about the author............
What did they know and when did they know it?
Genesis 1-4
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
How did these hut dwelling individuals know that "stuff" came first, and light came after? When did they know it? Well the book is older than all of us, especially modern science, so I will let you decide that.
Was it just a good guess?
It was then that I found out many other truths in science that PROVE the existence of GOD. And now I understand it to be no other way.
For what its worth, there was a big bang.
