RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 8, 2022 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2022 at 1:07 pm by Aegon.)
(August 5, 2022 at 9:22 pm)Fireball Wrote:(August 5, 2022 at 8:08 pm)bennyboy Wrote: For sure.Bolding mine. I want citations for this claim. Yes, the US has done some shit, but this claim is over the top.
America: SHOCK AND AWE. WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN. YOU ARE WITH US OR AGAINST US.
Also America: bombs weddings with drones, killing thousands of innocents
America has killed innocent brown people at a ratio of maybe 100:1 and still convinces its citizens that they're the good guys.
Also America: "It's not terrorism if you can't see them when you do it."
He's mostly correct. Obviously the U.S. covers up most civilian casualty statistics so you cannot take official numbers seriously - for example, 90% of the people killed by drone strikes authorized by the Obama administration were not the intended target. We only know this because a whistleblower leaked it (look up the Drone Papers for more information). So any "official" stats will be inaccurate.
The independent, NGO average estimate of U.S. civilian casualties is between 10,888 and 20,823. The estimate for civilian deaths (not casualties but actual deaths) via drone warfare is between 910 and 2,200. The average estimate for child deaths specifically is between 283 and 454. These are the numbers for the time period of 2004 to 2021.
U.S. foreign policy, at times, has been plain evil. No better way to put it. But since we were the victors in WWII, we've been able to create a global narrative that makes us the good guys. Doesn't help that 9/11 made us the victim... of course, we committed countless war crimes in response to that event. And forget the drone warfare, think about all of the indirect suffering we've caused through coups, deception, etc. that the CIA has been involved in. Countless fascist regimes that killed millions of their own people propped up by America because we couldn't stomach a communist country even remotely close to us.
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