(August 16, 2022 at 7:07 am)Angrboda Wrote:(August 16, 2022 at 5:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: You see, the Hadith is not the teachings of Mohammed PBUH, but "reports claiming to narrate Mohammed's words".
Every report is called a single "Hadith".
A "Hadith book" is a book containing these reports. There are thousands of reports and volumes upon volumes of "reports claiming to narrate Mohammed's words".
So technically, I denounce them because I simply trust no historical report told before 1400 years.
The reason you have "Sunni Islam" and "Shiite Islam" is these reports: some believe in a group of reports only, others believe in another group of reports.
While the Quran is the only admitted book to be the one and only revelation from God, while all the Hadiths are mere "reports" claiming that Mohammed said this or that in addition.
So I denounce the reports, and believe in the revelation only.
That's nice. But that's just your opinion. As they say, opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one. Yours is not necessarily any more valid than that of those who believe the hadith are authoritative. As a matter of fact, your opinion is less valid as there are more Islamic scholars who are smarter, better read, and have more experience than you who say the hadith are authoritative. And while you may claim expertise, the fact is that you have no credentials to demonstrate that you possess expertise. So from a logical perspective, we have one unvetted opinion against the opinion of a legion of bonafide experts. So you're just a kafir who knows dick pissing into the wind because you're stupid, arrogant, and unwise. The hadith, by the lights of the actual authorities of Islam, are authoritative. And nutjobs like you who say they are not are just that, nutjobs. Nutjobs whose opinion on the matter is worth nothing. So take your opinion and your kafir religion and shove it up your piehole.
Scholars worth nothing; do you think their commands are obligatory or something?
If their opinion is false, contradicts itself, then good bye: I am proud to be a kafir in their way.