(August 18, 2022 at 10:03 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think we're pretty safe from stalin. He hasn't gotten up to much lately.
Nothing prevents atheists in present from moral failure just as you note..at length..above, that nothing about being a believer prevented it in past. I have a question, what are gods supposed to have to do with right and wrong?
As to your question, I'm inspired by the example of theism - one long protracted demonstration of what not to do.
Do you have any virtues? Or do you just have enemies?
That was kind of the whole point of this OP, but it seems that you guys are more attracted to a war with someone else's imaginary friend than a fly is to shit.
So you haven't noticed all of the communistic rable rousing on campus lately? Or the useful anti-capitalist protests?
I submit to you that Karl Marx is indeed alive and well within our university system, and it was precisely this kind theological ignorance which lead to the original communistic revolutions to begin with. The people, being made to worship, rejected the old gods and chose to make a god out of man and well what did we get? Stalin, Mao, Lenin, and Marx, these men sought to make themselves into a god, deciding how markets should distribute themselves.
When did Jesus say that believing in God made you a good boy? It's not about belief it is about adherence to commandments, or, if you prefer, adherence to the moral virtue behind them.
To answer your question, it depends on which gods we're discussing, some are examples of what not to do, many are flawed, some are tragic but ultimately, the stories they tell us are meant to inspire men to their greater nature (much like our modern super heroes). Weather you believe in them or not truly isn't the question, but weather or not you guys have a solution that will inspire men to valor.
It seems you are convinced that only theists do evil? How can that be? If evil isn't already within our own mind? Within our own nature? Are you really going to blame a collective belief in Harry Potter for all of the wrongs of the past? If your world view is true then why do you hate my imaginary friends so much? And, what will you replace them with?
"Wise men wonder while strong men die."
