(August 19, 2022 at 3:48 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:(August 19, 2022 at 3:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No matter, ultimately, as I think we both know that there are any number of more recent beliefs and religions whose closer space in time to us is not taken by you to be indicative of it's greater accuracy.
Well I would be happy to grant that the Book of Mormon is 100% accurate, which is to say this book contains exactly what Joseph Smith intended for it to. I don't know why you think this argument is disingenuous, as a book being accurate doesn't mean it's true.. so an atheist is not really doing Muslims a huge favor by granting them that the Qur'an is preserved.
(August 19, 2022 at 3:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Mhm, that's exactly what I just said. That was islams first problem - the rest was just a pile-on. I consider that to be the pure tragedy of the religion - as it didn't have to do that. It ends up expressing a far more progressive view of the world than it's predecessors and alot of the hinkiest shit can be directly tied to it's having held it's own credibility hostage to those other comparatively retrograde faiths.
The Qur'an boldly rejected many christian doctrines, chiefly the idea of trinity, what we have in common with christian belief is the unique status of Jesus - we think he is an important prophet of God, and that God inspired him the original Bible, christians go much farther, as we all know.
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Boru
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