Biden Losing It

[Irreligious Atheist]

Denying an election is denying an election. Doesn't matter what year it was. Undermining democracy and the democratic process and all.

There’s different issues at play in each election.

2016, Trump managed to win despite having 2,868,686 fewer votes than Hilary Clinton because the US has a bullshit system called the Electoral College, which, at this point, seems to exist solely to give the Republican Presidential nominee the White House so he doesn’t have to win the popular vote. This (at least the part where Trump won despite having fewer votes than his opponents) is an undeniable fact. Though given that the most reasonable rationale I’ve heard for keeping an electoral college (protecting the American People from themselves if they’re dumb enough to elect a tyrant) failed to pan out when it was most needed, and that, of the three Presidential Elections since I was born that the Republicans won, they only took the popular vote in 2004, it’s a reasonable extrapolation.

2020, Joe Biden wins the Presidential Election with the most votes of any Presidential Candidate in history. Donald Trump and his sycophants claim the election was rigged, and none of his arguments to support this claim hold up to any scrutiny. I think the one time he actually succeeded in the courts, he got a couple dozen votes in Pennsylvania to flip. This was a strategy that he actually hinted at years in advance. Hell, he’s outright stated that he wants to be in power for the rest of his life. With this in mind, it’s hard to imagine this election denial as anything but a ploy to just keep Trump in power as long as possible. Especially after he cajoled his followers into storming the Capitol on the day Congress was to certify the vote count.

Edit: oh, you’re talking about Russia’s involvement in the election. That’s even more well-documented. At least, if you’re not deranged enough to read something like “ As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out asocial media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” And think “it’s totally debunked.”

The electoral college is a you problem, as those are the rules.

The now Press Secretary claims she was talking about voting rights when she said stolen election, and I agree that voting rights are a fair concern, but even so, there is not sufficient evidence that voting rights issues caused the election to go Trumps way, so she was just wrong in making that concrete claim of a stolen election. And as far as Russia goes, I think Hillary had a pretty big head start spending what, somewhere around 1 and a half billion dollars on her election bid? And little old rag tag Russia was able to turn the election? Not that you've explicitly stated that, but I don't think so. We would need clear evidence that this was the case. And what would you have suggested at the time? Do the election over because Russia interfered? No? Then what?

https://time.com/5573537/mueller-report-...erference/

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]none of the new revelations threaten the validity of Trump’s election victory.[/color]