Biden Losing It

[Irreligious Atheist]

-and seeing as how it's a debasement problem...should we further debase those people by officially unpersoning them?  Beyond that, if you contend that poverty is a factor, that would suggest a pretty straightforward solution.  If poverty is a factor, it's not at all like gravity, just how things are, unsolvable.

No, by the time their pyschological mindset is in place (probably early to mid teens), then they are already corrupted.

The solution for the issue of debasement due to poverty and drug use is wealth and reduced drug dependence on drugs.  Children need to grow up in a certain environment if they are going to function properly as adults.

I'm more interested in getting people to that state, so that they don't NEED to vote from prison, than I am about the rights of prisoners to vote.

I'm sorry, but this does sound an awful lot like the abortion argument from conservatives. "I want to give them abstinence training, and if that fails they better not be stupid enough not to use protection, and if everyone learns to just stop being stupid, then no one will need the right to abort." That's just not how life works. Shit happens. People get pregnant.