Biden Losing It

[bennyboy]

No, by the time their pyschological mindset is in place (probably early to mid teens), then they are already corrupted.

The solution for the issue of debasement due to poverty and drug use is wealth and reduced drug dependence on drugs.  Children need to grow up in a certain environment if they are going to function properly as adults.

I'm more interested in getting people to that state, so that they don't NEED to vote from prison, than I am about the rights of prisoners to vote.

I'm sorry, but this does sound an awful lot like the abortion argument from conservatives. "I want to give them abstinence training, and if that fails they better not be stupid enough not to use protection, and if everyone learns to just stop being stupid, then no one will need the right to abort." That's just not how life works. Shit happens. People get pregnant.

In this case, that's a poor analogy.  I'm talking about day care for single moms, prison release with financial incentives, low-interest loans for entrepreneurship, financial support for couples who get married and stay together, and so on. We spend an ungodly amount of money on criminals.  Better to spend at least some of it on circumstances that minimize criminality than to spend it on prisons, no?

Once someone's (metaphorical) soul has been demeaned by an unpleasant upbringing, things are unlikely to take a turn for the better. There are just enough people who DO drag themselves up by their own bootstraps to let moralists point fingers-- "That guy did it, why couldn't you?"

I think you and I are much more on the same page than you think we are right now.