RE: The atheist perspective
December 4, 2011 at 5:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2011 at 5:48 pm by Sitnuc.)
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[quote]If you don’t know something to be true yet still consider it to be correct then you must believe it, whether it’s a belief in something or a belief in non-belief is irrelevant. [/quote]
[quote]Belief is belief in non belief? Huh? You crazy?
I have rejected the claim that theists have put forth. I don't believe in this god they speak of. I don't need to justify anything. I have no burden of proof. I've got it easy. Since I'm not claiming anything. A theist claims a god exists, I reject that claim on the basis that it makes no sense and lacks evidence. That's it. Nothing more to it.
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If you know that a theist's god does not it exist then a disbelief would have the foundation of knowledge. Otherwise, you reject it based on what? A lack of evidence.
Do you think if a god exists he/she should appear? What would constitute evidence? Is it turtles all the way down?
[quote]To reject a claim, you would require some form of justification which is based on either knowledge or belief. [/quote]
[quote]Not really. If you are interested in my reasons for rejecting theist claims it is because of a lack of evidence. Also how is a lack of belief = a belief?[/quote]
To me it is as, you consider that evidence is lacking implies you know what the evidence is and is able to be retrieved.
So if you admit you know that evidence is lacking, this assumes that all evidence is obtainable/observable. Based on being your own assumption it would be a belief.
If you believe that evidence is lacking, it would be a belief. The resulting conclusion of a lack of belief has the foundation of resulting from what you consider to be true, which is a belief.
[quote]Exactly, so why are you here?[/quote]
[quote]Why not? I like to chat with like minded individuals. Also I love these guys. They're like a family to me.[/quote]
Fair enough. I still don't get it.
[quote]If you don’t know something to be true yet still consider it to be correct then you must believe it, whether it’s a belief in something or a belief in non-belief is irrelevant. [/quote]
[quote]Belief is belief in non belief? Huh? You crazy?
I have rejected the claim that theists have put forth. I don't believe in this god they speak of. I don't need to justify anything. I have no burden of proof. I've got it easy. Since I'm not claiming anything. A theist claims a god exists, I reject that claim on the basis that it makes no sense and lacks evidence. That's it. Nothing more to it.
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If you know that a theist's god does not it exist then a disbelief would have the foundation of knowledge. Otherwise, you reject it based on what? A lack of evidence.
Do you think if a god exists he/she should appear? What would constitute evidence? Is it turtles all the way down?
[quote]To reject a claim, you would require some form of justification which is based on either knowledge or belief. [/quote]
[quote]Not really. If you are interested in my reasons for rejecting theist claims it is because of a lack of evidence. Also how is a lack of belief = a belief?[/quote]
To me it is as, you consider that evidence is lacking implies you know what the evidence is and is able to be retrieved.
So if you admit you know that evidence is lacking, this assumes that all evidence is obtainable/observable. Based on being your own assumption it would be a belief.
If you believe that evidence is lacking, it would be a belief. The resulting conclusion of a lack of belief has the foundation of resulting from what you consider to be true, which is a belief.
[quote]Exactly, so why are you here?[/quote]
[quote]Why not? I like to chat with like minded individuals. Also I love these guys. They're like a family to me.[/quote]
Fair enough. I still don't get it.
