(November 25, 2022 at 3:08 am)Helios Wrote:(November 24, 2022 at 9:44 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: The laws of thermodynamics:Also to believers unless you can demonstrate these laws held before the formation of the universe you can't use them to argue for magic.
1. You can't win, you can only break even.
2. You can only break even at absolute zero.*
3. You can never actually get to absolute zero.
* No, believers. this one is not violated by descent with variation culled by natural selection. Fifty points from Hufflepuff.
As I have pointed out (and, any of our resident academics, feel free to disagree), we must, at the very least, live in a 5-dimensional Universe, three spatial, one time, with the 5th dimension being a hyper spherical or saddle type geometry where our Universe is expanding without a unique spatial center. No one can directly visualize this geometry, as we are trapped in our 3-dimensional World. This implies the existence of "new physics", which means that the God of the Gaps arguments are pointless.