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Poll: Compulsory Voting: Yea Or Nay
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Compulsory, no penalty
5.56%
1 5.56%
Compulsory, minimal penalty
22.22%
4 22.22%
Compulsory, severe penalty
5.56%
1 5.56%
Not compulsory
55.56%
10 55.56%
Fuck all polls
11.11%
2 11.11%
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Compulsory Voting
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RE: Compulsory Voting
(December 6, 2022 at 12:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 6, 2022 at 12:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 1. Death is not immoral, nor is killing (necessarily). No, giving preventive antibiotics to food animals, while arguably not the wisest course of action, is not an immoral act.

2. Wrong. Huemer goes on at great lengths that voting or any other political action, is inherently immoral (this is to be expected from an anarchic-capitalist). By extension, Huemer would us collapse into a quagmire on indecision, because it is impossible to know all the outcomes of any decision we make about anything.

3. You didn’t answer my question (not that I was expecting you to do so). Your analogy is flawed because it hasn’t been established that you are forced to do anything about the wallet. And you are still ignoring the point that the unintended consequences of an act carry no moral weight for the original actor, one way or the other.

Boru

Back when dad was practicing vet med, there was a set time that meat and/or milk was to be discarded from any animal that was given antibiotics or other medications.  I feel pretty sure those rules are still in place.  He also said that the meds given to food animals were more rigorously tested than people meds because it could/did pass to humans.

I am firmly convinced that, among other things, FA doesn't know a damn thing about animals.

You know, I often get amazed at how ignorant people are about global problems. Superbacteria, caused primarily by us preventatively giving antibiotics to farmed animals, are probably the greatest threat to human race today. That's a way more serious issue than global warming is... But almost nothing is done about it. No government has yet banned preventative use of antibiotics in farmed animals. And very little money is given to the research on new classes of antibiotics (which, if we are lucky, may be used to fight superbacteria). That, in my opinion, is yet another failure of democracy: people don't know about that issue (or they at least greatly underestimate the severity of the problem), so nothing is done to mitigate it until it's too late.
And when my grandchildren, living in a world destroyed by pandemics of superbacteria, ask me "Did you do everything you could to prevent this?", what should I tell them? I can show them this amazingly ignorant comment, so they will get the idea of why we did almost nothing. I will be able to tell them that I was a vegan, so that I at least did not support the system that causes superbacteria... but that's basically it.
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Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 7, 2022 at 4:13 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - November 7, 2022 at 4:34 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 7, 2022 at 5:00 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - November 7, 2022 at 5:09 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Valkyrie - November 7, 2022 at 5:29 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by zebo-the-fat - November 7, 2022 at 6:18 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 7, 2022 at 6:40 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - November 7, 2022 at 6:49 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Irreligious Atheist - November 8, 2022 at 7:09 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 5:13 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 6:36 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 9:35 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 11:48 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Pat Mustard - December 5, 2022 at 5:56 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 5, 2022 at 11:58 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 3, 2022 at 5:56 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 3, 2022 at 9:57 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 10:46 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ahriman - December 3, 2022 at 10:52 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 11:33 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by brewer - December 3, 2022 at 1:49 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 2:51 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by brewer - December 3, 2022 at 8:47 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by brewer - December 3, 2022 at 9:58 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Angrboda - December 3, 2022 at 11:15 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ahriman - December 3, 2022 at 11:28 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 4, 2022 at 3:30 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 11:32 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 11:47 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Fireball - December 3, 2022 at 12:38 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 12:57 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 3, 2022 at 2:54 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 5:40 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 4, 2022 at 3:29 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 4, 2022 at 3:38 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ranjr - December 4, 2022 at 4:36 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 4, 2022 at 5:19 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ranjr - December 4, 2022 at 7:18 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2022 at 5:57 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 4, 2022 at 6:09 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Angrboda - December 3, 2022 at 1:06 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 3, 2022 at 1:13 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Thumpalumpacus - December 3, 2022 at 4:49 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 3, 2022 at 2:56 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Thumpalumpacus - December 4, 2022 at 5:42 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ahriman - December 4, 2022 at 6:01 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Anomalocaris - December 5, 2022 at 11:02 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 5, 2022 at 11:50 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 5, 2022 at 12:10 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 5, 2022 at 12:05 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 5, 2022 at 1:27 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 6, 2022 at 10:57 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 5, 2022 at 12:51 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 5, 2022 at 1:29 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 5, 2022 at 1:31 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 6, 2022 at 10:55 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 6, 2022 at 12:06 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 6, 2022 at 12:21 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 6, 2022 at 3:15 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2022 at 2:01 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2022 at 5:50 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by emjay - December 6, 2022 at 7:40 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Angrboda - December 6, 2022 at 7:43 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 1:46 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 1:55 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:19 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:07 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:12 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:20 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:22 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:20 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:21 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:30 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:32 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:33 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:46 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:54 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 10:47 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 10:52 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Aegon - December 7, 2022 at 3:16 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 3:38 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Aegon - December 7, 2022 at 4:20 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 11:03 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2022 at 12:57 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 7, 2022 at 1:28 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2022 at 1:34 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 7, 2022 at 1:41 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Ranjr - December 7, 2022 at 2:13 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 7, 2022 at 3:57 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 7, 2022 at 4:25 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2022 at 8:07 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 8, 2022 at 12:52 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 10, 2022 at 10:45 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 11, 2022 at 8:39 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 10, 2022 at 10:38 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 11, 2022 at 8:54 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 12, 2022 at 7:11 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Angrboda - December 12, 2022 at 9:32 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 14, 2022 at 4:58 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 12, 2022 at 10:46 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 12, 2022 at 10:59 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 13, 2022 at 8:42 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 13, 2022 at 8:48 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 13, 2022 at 8:59 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 13, 2022 at 9:07 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 13, 2022 at 9:25 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Architect Of Fate - December 13, 2022 at 9:46 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2022 at 12:02 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 13, 2022 at 12:49 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 13, 2022 at 11:39 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2022 at 11:10 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 16, 2022 at 3:27 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Angrboda - December 16, 2022 at 3:55 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2022 at 5:00 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 17, 2022 at 4:43 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by davado - December 16, 2022 at 6:07 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2022 at 11:56 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 26, 2022 at 1:27 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 26, 2022 at 1:29 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 26, 2022 at 2:26 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 26, 2022 at 2:35 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by FlatAssembler - December 26, 2022 at 2:54 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Jackalope - December 27, 2022 at 12:20 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 27, 2022 at 3:44 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by tackattack - December 27, 2022 at 5:35 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 27, 2022 at 5:41 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 27, 2022 at 6:34 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by tackattack - December 27, 2022 at 4:31 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by arewethereyet - December 27, 2022 at 5:40 pm
RE: Compulsory Voting - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2022 at 8:39 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2022 at 10:25 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2022 at 11:20 am
RE: Compulsory Voting - by Fireball - December 28, 2022 at 11:23 am

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