(December 12, 2022 at 5:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:1st phrase: Yes.(December 11, 2022 at 11:03 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is there any genuine split between the two?
One that doesn't round down to one group believing in the same thing more strongly than another - I mean?
Of course, there is. I have no problem with religionists having views that differ from mine. I would object pretty strongly to having those views codified into law.
And, if we're honest about it, they overwhelming majority of theists would not care to live in a theocracy.
Boru
2nd phrase: No.
The world has become a place full of people pretending to have a definition of true religion and are willing to support their own “religious view” or sectarian movement in a simultaneous manner. Many of these persons are complete hypocrites who think they can bend and readapt every concept in the world (both religious or political) according to how they think these should be interpreted. There is the disgusting issue of child brides for instance. The practice dates back to the bronze age. It’s a mean for one group of people or clan, to seal an alliance with another clan (or group of people). So the beast solution they can come out with is (sometimes) to marry little children (one being 10 year old, the other being 12 year old) or a child with an adult (6 year old with 28 year old). And in order to be able to do this criminal activity they will bribe a religious “authority” and make him say that such arrangements are “sometimes” appropriate. They are even saying that in front of the cameras now. And that’s exacly what they are saying. They say: “Our religion does approve pedophilia”.
So 1) These guys are simply too smart for me and I can’t even start going into how their neurons are working.
2) Of course not. How do you let people like that have a say in government. I’d rather live under an absolutist monarchy than to live under the egotic interpretation of religion of some sick / psychologically disturbed individual. This is just B.S. Theocracy belongs to the middle ages and it should stay in the middle ages. In our century it’s nothing but pure insanity. Even the Crusades had a certain logic behind them (the pope wanted to make use of the already existing violence between landlords and direct all this violence to the sacking of the riches of the east / Like the attitude of the Vikings in the 7th century). But theocratic rules of today (Iran+ Afghanistan) are simply insane. They follow no logic, no morality, no goal, no nothing. And in terms of popular support, I have a nice video from the BBC, a nice animation that is also showing the shifting the attitude of religious persons toward the theocratic regime: