RE: The historical Jesus--dead wrong, literally.
December 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2011 at 9:07 pm by Minimalist.)
(December 7, 2011 at 7:38 pm)Barre Wrote: There is no agonizing, only an attempt to interpret a biblical text.
You seem unwilling for some reason to study something that you regard as a lie.
(December 7, 2011 at 1:47 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:I am interpreting the verb in the sense that the high priest will [soon] see the inauguration of the Messianic Age as proof that he is the Messiah.
Yeah, early xtians had a problem with that too when it didn't happen. A little fancy footwork was necessary to get their godboy off the hook.
Quote: Strictly speaking, I am offering an interpretation of Jesus' last hours in gMark and in particular
But, strictly speaking, would you offer an interpretation of Sindey Carton's last hours waiting to be guillotined in place of Charles Darnayh in A Tale of Two Cities? Fiction is fiction.
Yes, I agree with you that early Christianity exhibits "Bad Faith." Do you think I have correctly interpreted, "you shall [soon] see."
I don't speak Greek - beyond a few words - but these translations seem to support you.
http://bible.cc/mark/14-62.htm
But, as long as we are kicking this shit around.... why didn't jesus pull a Terminator routine and tell them "I'll be back" in 3 days?
Clearly, they did not see him sitting by the right hand of god...what they saw was his sorry ass nailed to a cross ( assuming, for the sake of argument only, that there is any truth at all to the story.) Wouldn't the 3-day return have been a more compelling argument to make?