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[Edwardo Piet]

I do tend to agree. After all, what we are doing now is simply 'preaching to the converted', so to speak.

On the old forum there used to be a few fundamentalist Christians, the sort who thought it was their destiny to convert all us heathens and it was a real challenge trying to get them to see your point of view.

So, in that sense it really does help you to sharpen up your argument and reaffirm why we think the way we do and perhaps help us to understand why they do what they do.

Yeah that's what I'm atleast TRYING to say...I don't know whether I'm very good at explaing

I wouldn't say a genuine atheist can preach though...I wouldn't call it preaching; de-converting is not the same as converting because it's not done through brainwashing...it's well thought out arguments...and it's loss of supersition - not planted superstiton. And what's preachy about well thought out reasoning that encourages questioning beliefs? And if done right will almost certainly lead to de-conversion and atheism. Teaching questioning is the opposite of preaching IMO...Preaching is just brainwashing: "This is right and don't you question it....it IS right."....and that's the opposite of questioning...of reason.

I know you put; 'preaching to the converted' in quote marks....but I don't think the word preaching should be used in context with what is in fact encouraging questioning of beliefs that if done right will almost certainly lead to de-conversion.

I think if fundies thought we were in fact 'preaching' to them and only doing the equivilent of what they're doing but 'preaching' non-faith instead of faith...I think it would not only be incorrect...but also would give them the wrong idea and it might encourage them to ignore what we're saying (even more than normally).