(February 27, 2023 at 8:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and just to keep trying to tie this into judas. An understanding of the claim that asserts the primacy of subjective apprehension as the reality maker in this matter is a narrative understanding of the character of judas and purpose of the story. It is irrelevant that there was no judas and that this did not happen as told. The salient facts of the story are in the ability of a cultural consciousness to be expressed and that this consciousness is reality making in conflict with and even in spite of any objective fact of judas non existence as a person or jesus non existence as a person or these events non occurrence in mere reality. Both men and the relationship between them are palpably created by thinking about them, and in a particular way, and not by any objective fact of their existence or relationship in reality per se.
Yes, I think so too.
The emotional import of a myth -- and therefore its moral power and enduringly provocative nature -- don't depend on it being true at all.
Fictional characters carry just as much weight in my emotional world as long-dead historical people.
Whether Judas really did what he did is of interest to a certain kind of historian, but not crucial to religious teaching.