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Why didn't JB join JC?
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Why didn't JB join JC?
Some of the Gospels claim that Jesus was God and that John the Baptist was aware of that, so why didn't John the Baptist disband his cult and join Jesus's cult and become his apostle? I mean would you not rather be in the cult ran by an actual God than in someone's who is not a God?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why didn't JB join JC?
(January 26, 2023 at 4:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Some of the Gospels claim that Jesus was God and that John the Baptist was aware of that, so why didn't John the Baptist disband his cult and join Jesus's cult and become his apostle? I mean would you not rather be in the cult ran by an actual God than in someone's who is not a God?

For a start, he got his head lopped off. People without heads almost never join cults (people without brains are another matter).

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RE: Why didn't JB join JC?
But he was not killed immediately, and when he was alive he was in his cult and even had a successor by some legends.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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.........if you think john the baptist didn't join the jesus cult, then you're reading (new) magic book wrong......
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Talking heads infesting my brain.

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(January 26, 2023 at 4:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Some of the Gospels claim that Jesus was God and that John the Baptist was aware of that, so why didn't John the Baptist disband his cult and join Jesus's cult and become his apostle? I mean would you not rather be in the cult ran by an actual God than in someone's who is not a God?

Because Jesus didn't exist, so his inventors used the extant (but dwindling) cult of John to give their cult a false legitimacy.
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(January 27, 2023 at 4:50 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(January 26, 2023 at 4:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Some of the Gospels claim that Jesus was God and that John the Baptist was aware of that, so why didn't John the Baptist disband his cult and join Jesus's cult and become his apostle? I mean would you not rather be in the cult ran by an actual God than in someone's who is not a God?

Because Jesus didn't exist, so his inventors used the extant (but dwindling) cult of John to give their cult a false legitimacy.

Well, that's a good Doylist explanation.

A Watsonian explanation would likely point out that this little event got in the way of John and Jesus doing much.
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And, yes, I did choose that one specifically because it belongs to my local, The Art Institute, which also has a few other paintings by the same artist covering the whole beheading saga.
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RE: Why didn't JB join JC?
Because He had to GTG PRDQ BC AC/DC WAS ON THE TV IN RV
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RE: Why didn't JB join JC?
(January 26, 2023 at 5:02 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: .........if you think john the baptist didn't join the jesus cult, then you're reading (new) magic book wrong......

Well, if we look at the Gospels, John the Baptist is a messianic figure in his own right

Mark 6:14-15 King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known. Some were saying,[a] “John the Baptist has been raised from the dead, and that is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” Others said, “He is Elijah.” And still others claimed, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of long ago.”

Luke 3:15 The people were waiting expectantly and were all wondering in their hearts if John might possibly be the Messiah.


And from what I see he had a sect of his own that had nothing to do with Jesus.

Matt. 9:14 Then John’s disciples came and asked him, “How is it that we and the Pharisees fast often, but your disciples do not fast?” Jesus answered, “How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast.

Mark 2:18 Now John’s disciples and the Pharisees were fasting. Some people came and asked Jesus, “How is it that John’s disciples and the disciples of the Pharisees are fasting, but yours are not?”

Luke 5:33 They said to him, “John’s disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking.”

John 3:25-26 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.”

Acts 18:24- 25 Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor[a] and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why didn't JB join JC?
My guess is that many of those disciples of John might have splintered from him after he joined up with Jesus, considering Jesus a heretic and keeping to John's old ways. It sure as shit happens enough with religions in the real world. Hell, the Universal Life Church even has its own schisms and it's basically a glorified ordination mill.
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